Girls are one big fucking contradiction. Hence the reggression of my attitude. Apparantly, i had it right before when i was in highschool
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Well this is my second time reading this through, the first time when I was up in miami. When I was reading it, as much as I dont like to admitt it, parts of what you said were right Jake, almost scary in fact. The funny thing is, my dad, who's a child psychiatrist, just talked me the other day about stuff like this(scary I know, trust me I dont like the fact that he analyzes my friends/ relationships but what are ya gonna do) So anyways, he said that every girl has an inherent desire to be in what he referred to as "rescue scenarios" where they truly believe that they can change the guys who they are with. He said that he has had countless moms, daughters, sisters, you name it, who are miserable because they spend they're lives trying to "rescue" these guys in their lives, by helping them become a better person. So you are right by that point. Maybe girls think people can change more than guys do. I know I personally am a great believer in the idea that people can change, and that everyone deserves multiple chances. I mean I guess
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""rescue scenarios" where they truly believe that they can change the guys who they are with. He said that he has had countless moms, daughters, sisters, you name it, who are miserable because they spend they're lives trying to "rescue" these guys in their lives, by helping them become a better person."
So true. The worst part is, alot of times the one getting hurt, is too blinded by everything to even recognize that their situation is not normal
Haha i love how psych has a name for everytyhing, "rescue scenarios"
true for the most partkungpow16March 2 2005, 02:11:34 UTC
my belief is that some girls are the most retarded things on the planet. No offense to any of them but they need to get the idea that trying to save someone is sometimes a lost cause and if they give u that many problems just leave them cause there basically dead weight. From some of the girls that i help with problems this seems to be a big issue. If u let your life be carried on with trying to fix this one "guy" who treats you like dirt your only making it more obvious that he can treat u like that and get away with it. Now with connections and everything sometimes they can be false pathways and lead you down a horrible road. I guess you just have to know for sure and make compromises. If the person isn't willing to change on their own then the chances of you influencing them to do so is nearly impossible. To conclude everything i believe that the saying nice guys finish last is a bunch of bullshit cause in the end i believe they finish the happiest even though they didn't treat a girl like shit.
I disagree and I'm not wrong
anonymous
March 2 2005, 02:47:40 UTC
I had a best friend who did all those things, the nicest guy in the world... I did fall inlove with him, I did everything for him... and he stabbed me in the back too, so it's not true, girls are not the only ones who don't know what they want, cause I'm sure of what I want... and all guys do suck at times.
Re: I disagree and I'm not wrong
anonymous
March 2 2005, 03:04:24 UTC
Maybe you posted that in a state of anger or just trying to get it off your chest because you might have been slightly offended from previous posts because it seems a little rash. You say all guys do suck...don't you think that's a tid bit of a generalization? Maybe you should say, "All guys that I know of SUCK at times". You don't know me, do you? Could you honestly say that I suck and be right about it? Or how about my friend(s)?
I used to think I was sure of what I wanted, but then sometimes when I got it (or I didn't get it) I changed my mind. Is what you want best for you? I guess the only way you'll find out is if you get whatever it is that you want.
My friend evan just sent me that link when I asked him what he thought about all this. It's called "Ode to the Nice Guy", please just read it, it's hysterical and it talks about a lot of things the original post said -Katie (PS: ur gonna have to prob. enter it in cause I dont know how to make it a link, sorry)
I'm sorry but it sounds like you guys, mainly saykiss and pags, are just bitter because you've obviously messed up with your past relationships. i'm keeping this anonymous so i can say what i what i really feel, but i know your past girlfriend or whatever and she seemed great, you messed things up with her, that's not her fault. not saying it's yours either, because i don't know the whole situation. And saykiss, i have no comment for you and you're past relationships...i just think of one word (cheating).
That was a little under the radar anon. You choose to hide yourself, but show things about Jake. And yes, we are bitter, and we don't really care. If you think about it, you can't speak of much other than what you've been through. Actually Jake posted all this because what he was upset about at the time, was a really good guy (not Jake or myself b/c we're not really good guys) being hurt by one of those situations. As far as ourselves, Jake and I obviously have so much to say about this because we don't like the way things have turned out in the past. Also, unless you've been in a relationship with someone we have, I'm not so sure how they seemed to you is accurate, but I see that you're not really riding that- I just wanted to make it clear, however. I'm also going to still be that person who voices the things others think, but don't say. I don't care if people get mad at me because it happens even if I try to avoid it. You probably do only think of one word when it comes to Jake's relationships. I ask that you think of a
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I have matured alot since highschool ended needless to say, but yes i did cheat on Andrea, and it was an entirely fucked up situation, bred by my selfishness. I understand and accept this, but the fact is that since then, i havent cheated on one of my girlfriends. Trish and I dated for 6 months while 90% of that time i was 4 hours away at Miami
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So true. The worst part is, alot of times the one getting hurt, is too blinded by everything to even recognize that their situation is not normal
Haha i love how psych has a name for everytyhing, "rescue scenarios"
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I used to think I was sure of what I wanted, but then sometimes when I got it (or I didn't get it) I changed my mind. Is what you want best for you? I guess the only way you'll find out is if you get whatever it is that you want.
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this is coming from a girls point of view
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My friend evan just sent me that link when I asked him what he thought about all this. It's called "Ode to the Nice Guy", please just read it, it's hysterical and it talks about a lot of things the original post said
-Katie
(PS: ur gonna have to prob. enter it in cause I dont know how to make it a link, sorry)
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I understand and accept this, but the fact is that since then, i havent cheated on one of my girlfriends. Trish and I dated for 6 months while 90% of that time i was 4 hours away at Miami
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