Episode Notes: due South "Hawk & Handsaw"

[sara_merry99]

I've seen this episode before, but I didn't remember it as being perfectly wonderful! Maybe because I was watching it with the hubby and he didn't like Fraser undercover (as himself) in the asylum. (I also, as you'll see, didn't remember most of the details

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[spikedluv]

~Fraser on the ledge (and how much do I love that Fraser went out on a ledge for someone, literally?! *g*) was just hunkalicious!! I wanted to eat him all up. Starting with little licks and nibbles. *g

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[sara_merry99]

~Fraser on the ledge (and how much do I love that Fraser went out on a ledge for someone, literally?! *g*) was just hunkalicious!! I wanted to eat him all up. Starting with little licks and nibbles. *g*

Oh, *gosh* yes!! He was so *tasty* in that scene. And in those jeans and leather coat.

~Fraser LIED!! And then he’s so upset that he lied, so the only thing to do is make it not a lie by finding Ty. *hugs Fraser*

LOVED Fraser lying to help Ty! And I *loved* that he had to make the lie a truth. That was just so beautifully Fraser!

~Did you catch Ray’s smile after he made the comment about Eskimos not having a lot to do in the winter, as if he’s having so much fun busting Fraser’s butt, even though Fraser’s getting ready to sniff concrete? *g*

He was having *so* much fun teasing him!! And Fraser just totaly took it in stride, which is just so wonderful!! They're *such* good friends (at least) and I *love* that.

~It’s the next day, hence a change in attire, and we get to see the brown uniform. (I actually started to capitalize

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[spikedluv]

I've started this reply three times, lol, but I'm finding it hard to say what I mean, because I don't disagree with you, but I'm trying to put a finer point on it, which might just be beating a dead horse. *g*

I think you're right in that the Red Uniform is like a piece of armor that Fraser puts on when he goes to work, representing his office and his responsibility, but I think that being a Mountie is ingrained so deeply within him that he doesn't need the uniform to be a Mountie, because he just IS. However, on a more personal level, his hat is what symbolizes, to him, at least, his Mountie-ness. Not only does he wear it with his jeans and leather jacket *humina* while he's off-duty, and in the psych ward when he's wearing jammies, he seemed overly distress when his hat was shot back in Free Willy.

So maybe I can just say that the Red Uniform = Constable Benton Fraser, Royal Canadian Mounted Police, while The Hat = Fraser, Mountie, if that makes any sense at all, lol. *splits hairs*

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[sara_merry99]

I think that being a Mountie is ingrained so deeply within him that he doesn't need the uniform to be a Mountie, because he just IS.

Oh, definitely!! Definitely.

However, on a more personal level, his hat is what symbolizes, to him, at least, his Mountie-ness. Not only does he wear it with his jeans and leather jacket *humina* while he's off-duty, and in the psych ward when he's wearing jammies, he seemed overly distress when his hat was shot back in Free Willy.

I agree with this completely too. (And particularly about the *humina* :D). I loved that he didn't want to give up his hat in the asylum. I'm trying to remember, but it seems like he tends to take the hat off when he's putting the Verbal Whammy on people. I know he didn't have it on when he was talking to Walter in this ep, and to Vinnie in the one with the Michelin Baby, and to Charlie in Dief's Day Off. Not sure about Mr. Lee in Chinatown. Maybe Verbally Whammy-ing people doesn't seem so Mountie-ish to him. :D

maybe I can just say that the Red Uniform = Constable

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[sara_merry99]

~I boggled at the warrant thing because at this point I’m pretty sure they have probable cause and don’t actually need a warrant, no?

Oh, now there's a good point. There's a very good point. They still had to hurry because the murderers were after them, so they couldn't dawdle, but they probably didn't need a warrant. Though how much *searching* can one do on the basis of probable cause--like going for things that aren't in plain sight? Dunno.

a facet of Fraser in that he knows when he can make comments that would drive Ray a little bit batty, and when he needs to just go with the flow. I like the idea of Fraser picking and choosing his moments. *g*

Yeah, I think that's totally it. That he teases Ray by reminding him about stop signs and stuff and Ray teases Fraser by griping about things and calling the Inuit "Eskimos". :)

~That doctor manipulating Walter made me so angry!OMG Yes!! He's just so *evil*!! That's such a *horrible* abuse of power and so *very* very wrong!! That's why I figured he wouldn't have too much trouble

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[spikedluv]

~I'm certainly not an expert on warrants, I took an Evidence class and a Criminal Law class over 15 years ago, and havn't worked with it since, so... *g* However, I would think the evidence they'd uncovered (the pill, the testing), added to the fact that they'd been captured by the bad guys AND that they were afraid of losing what evidence was on the computers would be enough to constitute probable cause for a warrantless search.

~Hee! I'm not sure you can just dislocate your shoulder a little bit, but then again, I've never done it and don't really want to test that theory. *g* It would seem to me that it would hurt like hell, even if he did it just a little bit. Of course, my frame of reference is Lethal Weapon. *g*

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[sara_merry99]

However, I would think the evidence they'd uncovered (the pill, the testing), added to the fact that they'd been captured by the bad guys AND that they were afraid of losing what evidence was on the computers would be enough to constitute probable cause for a warrantless search.

I think you're probably right. Which means that Ray was afraid that Fraser'd be difficult about recognizing that and Fraser just wasn't difficult about it at all. Ray was trying to respect what he saw might be an issue Fraser'd have. Even though it wasn't really an issue at all.

It would seem to me that it would hurt like hell, even if he did it just a little bit. Of course, my frame of reference is Lethal Weapon. *g*

Heeeee!! Mine too!! Not the most reliable source of information, alas. :)