This is actually a huge reason why I was dissatisfied by the storyline, TBH. It felt like the narrative was loading the dice in favor of this outcome. IDK.
That's fair. I think I'm okay with it, because I don't really think there's a realistic way to alienate her from the group and keep her around? So I like that there's at least enough respect for the character that she gets her own motivations, and not "she does as Elena says because, um, because."
it's absolutely characteristic of Elena that she would DODGE that question. I really have a hard time understanding fandom's indignation that nobody was asking Elena whether she wanted the cure, because the whole tacit consent thing is Elena's MO
Right. I mean, I am sympathetic to the Good Girl pressures, where she is so heavily conditioned against admitting that she wants or needs anything in particular. But it is a response to conditioning on her part, and not just everyone else happening to her.
Heh. It's interesting seeing him paired with someone like Rebekah, who is SO sincere (
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I assumed Kol meant he would give Jeremy blood so that Jeremy wouldn't bleed to death from two cut off arms (a high likelihood) and then die, thus giving Kol the curse for killing a hunter. I doubt vampire blood would regrow arms.
I wonder if his death won't bring Rebekah and Klaus back together - these upstarts have declared all-out war on the Mikaelsons.
Yeah, this was one reason I didn't think they'd actually kill Kol - because surely it would bring the wrath of all the Originals down on their heads.
Elena dodges again as to whether or not she wants the cure - "what does it matter what I want, if it puts everyone else in danger?" Because she doesn't want it.
If she doesn't want it, why is she joining in on the mission to look for it though? I'm still confused about Elena's motivations here.
If she doesn't want it, why is she joining in on the mission to look for it though? I'm still confused about Elena's motivations here.
I mean, I think she'd rather be the one possessing it than not? But that's not the same as wanting to be human again. If Klaus gets his hands on it, she's going to be forced to take it. If she's steering the push to find it, then that gives her a little more leverage in the situation. And she's afraid to admit that she doesn't want to be human anymore, because that ruins the good girl image she's been so dependent on for so long.
That does make sense. It's not at all clear to me in the show, unfortunately... I guess we'll see when she does get her hands on it, although I'm still suspicious that it'll turn out to be a fake-out anyway.
I'm still suspicious that it'll turn out to be a fake-out anyway.
Yeah, I think there's still a pretty solid chance of that. Maybe the "cure" is Silas himself? Like, "raise the dead" is a telephone-game misrepresentation of the idea that he can give vampires back their mortality.
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That's fair. I think I'm okay with it, because I don't really think there's a realistic way to alienate her from the group and keep her around? So I like that there's at least enough respect for the character that she gets her own motivations, and not "she does as Elena says because, um, because."
it's absolutely characteristic of Elena that she would DODGE that question. I really have a hard time understanding fandom's indignation that nobody was asking Elena whether she wanted the cure, because the whole tacit consent thing is Elena's MO
Right. I mean, I am sympathetic to the Good Girl pressures, where she is so heavily conditioned against admitting that she wants or needs anything in particular. But it is a response to conditioning on her part, and not just everyone else happening to her.
Heh. It's interesting seeing him paired with someone like Rebekah, who is SO sincere ( ( ... )
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Yeah, this was one reason I didn't think they'd actually kill Kol - because surely it would bring the wrath of all the Originals down on their heads.
Elena dodges again as to whether or not she wants the cure - "what does it matter what I want, if it puts everyone else in danger?" Because she doesn't want it.
If she doesn't want it, why is she joining in on the mission to look for it though? I'm still confused about Elena's motivations here.
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I mean, I think she'd rather be the one possessing it than not? But that's not the same as wanting to be human again. If Klaus gets his hands on it, she's going to be forced to take it. If she's steering the push to find it, then that gives her a little more leverage in the situation. And she's afraid to admit that she doesn't want to be human anymore, because that ruins the good girl image she's been so dependent on for so long.
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Yeah, I think there's still a pretty solid chance of that. Maybe the "cure" is Silas himself? Like, "raise the dead" is a telephone-game misrepresentation of the idea that he can give vampires back their mortality.
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It's Klaus, we had a scene where Rebekah and Elijah confirmed it.
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