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another what the fuck moment for you

Mar 31, 2005 17:29

so im flipping through channels the other day and the news is doing this segment on this one PBS show "Postcards from Buster". for those of you who dont know (because i didnt either) Buster Baxter is the bunny rabbit from the other PBS show, "Arthur". In the Arthur series Buster travels all over the world with his father, and recently PBS network ( Read more... )

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totally wrong the_stampy April 1 2005, 02:27:39 UTC

It is wrong to be putting that on television. The U.S. was founded on christian morals, and all of that has been distorted. A child should not be subjected to something as immoral as that. It is completly wrong.

Re: totally wrong penguin_lover April 1 2005, 03:21:36 UTC

maybe distorted is not the right word. true there are nice people but there are not so nice people too. changed maybe. different.

i would hope that we have changed since the 1600's. we have not all changed for the better, but i would be pretty bored with things if we were all the same for the past 400 years.

i love you stampy. but i think we have very different opinions on this matter. but feel free to post here anytime. because i like you and your opinion is valued because of that. i just hope that you dont persecute me because i feel differently from you.

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the_stampy April 1 2005, 06:50:13 UTC

I wasn't saying that you have to be christian to be a good person. I am saying that I am really not surprised that happened because a lot of people hold on to those values and don't want their kids subjected to it. Also, not say a homosexual is a bad person, but it goes against human nature to enter into that kind of relaitionship with someone. It goes against nature itself.

the_stampy April 1 2005, 06:46:19 UTC

I am not persecuting you, I was just stating my opinion.

penguin_lover April 1 2005, 09:11:35 UTC

im glad youre not persecuting me. thank you for clarifying. ill go ahead and delete my second comment because youre right, that doesnt make sense. i didnt really organize my thoughts correctly.

immoral or unnatural? you said both and i just want to know which one it is.

the_stampy April 1 2005, 15:49:26 UTC

I guess it can be both for some people and only one for others. For people that share the same moral beliefs as I do it is immoral. Probably the case for the guy at PBS. I also think it is unnatural. That is the only arguement that I can use when talking to someone who doesn't share the same morals with me. It would be like trying to tell a Muslim that the new testament in the bible says something and thats why they should live their life a certain way. It just doesn't work, so I have to use non faith based arguements. Just let me know if that makes sense.

penguin_lover April 1 2005, 22:40:26 UTC

it makes sense dear. youve explained yourself well.

i cant tell you guys how much i have already learned about life from this one post. you are a big part of this epiphany. i dont mean that in a bad way either.

homosexuality isn't a disease sarar April 1 2005, 19:01:06 UTC

...and christians are supposed love everyone no matter who they are and what they believe. I was raised Quaker. I know about being a christian ( ... )

the_stampy April 1 2005, 20:32:34 UTC

First of all I never said that I didn't love everyone. Hate the sin love the sinner. I love everyone as Gods children, but that doesn't mean that I support everything that they do. And it seems pretty clear that there is nothing I can say to you because you don't seem very open to hear opinions are just plain old fact. I don't know where you come from or who you are, but I do know that I have been formed to analyze things in a logical manner. In no way is homosexuality logical, or natural, or right. Also, it is clear that I am dealing with someone who won't regard the magistarium of the church as truth. It is sad that our culture has become so distorted. Now if I am not to use God in this let me just start by saying THAT is impossible, and those who think it is are uneducated. Obviously we came from somewhere. It is completely impossible to come from absolutely nothing. Aristotle said that there has to be a higher Creator in order for our existance. I can say that even not using God in this that homosexuality is completely unnatural. ( ... )

penguin_lover April 1 2005, 22:38:59 UTC

i think your idea of facts and sar's idea of facts are greatly differed. i would hope that you dont tune her out either beacuse she feels so differently from you. you defend your point very elequoently but i have to disagree strongly when you say that it is a disorder ( ... )

penguin_lover April 1 2005, 22:45:32 UTC

ps.. i like how you love the sinner and just hate the sin. even though i dont think homosexuality is a sin, i like that you try to still love someone you dont agree with.

the_stampy April 1 2005, 23:01:22 UTC

Where was this kids dad? Just wondering because the studies I have read speak of male "loving" other males because they didn't have that male nurturing when they were growing up.

penguin_lover April 2 2005, 05:05:12 UTC

actually he wasnt around. this kid is one of three brothers, and he took off when he was really young, i think. i dont know the exact age but i know it was really young. that agrees with that idea, but his boyfriend was the product of a happy home, with his father around and everything.

ive heard of that theory too. i honestly wouldnt want to rule it out as a factor of how people are shaped, sexuality included, but i dont think its the only factor.

wow we've beaten this to death havent we

sarar April 2 2005, 06:11:44 UTC

I already said everything that needed to be said.

the_stampy April 2 2005, 08:48:06 UTC

and it was wrong

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