I'm hoping for a better nation.

[patriotskinhead]

Damn I'm pissed that this original post just froze up on my LJ and I will kill LJ for making me do this again. Since I've found myself with no one to discuss this with or to vent to, I've found my nice little LJ would be a perfect place to do it. If it causes people to hate me, so be it. I don't need you anyway. As I've stated in previous posts, I'

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[anewpoetry]

hey man, check out "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn, and everything you can by Mr. Noam Chomsky. They are amazingly eloquent historians who tell the truth most people have forgotten or chose never to know. The first chapter of A People's History on Columbus and the destruction of the native americans is impossible to put down.

[patriotskinhead]

I saw "A People's History Of The United States" and didn't know whether or not to pick it up. Instead I picked up Lies My Teacher Told Me and I'm looking to get Lies Across America. I got a pretty good history of the natives in this book. It honestly was weird seeing it before my eyes...not sugarcoated. My patriotism and nationalist point of view still stands in hopes of a better nation in the truest sense of the words written in the declaration of independence. Chomsky...I've heard so much negative press on him...but I'm open to read anything mainly to study other people's points of view. Right now..my main interest is my country's history without the bias of political affilations.

[anewpoetry]

A People's History is absolutely essential reading to gain better perspective.

You must, of course, keep in mind that both Zinn and Chomsky are left-wing "revisionist" historians, and their books show that bias, but as Zinn explains in the foreward, that's alright if you simply take that into account. All history texts are biased, so it's about reading the broadest amount of accounts, but Zinn and Chom are very well researched and prove their points quite well. The leftward perspective isn't hidden, but that's good, because it's honest. It's still truer than 99% of the "history" you learn in school, and quite a good read to boot.

[zimlavey]

i too must recommend chomsky, Aaron it's nice to see that now we may actually share a few more views, i mean granted you'll never be a punk but some day you may actually be punk w00t

[bigger_boss]

I'm glad you see things like I do too,Ignorance is the enemy of the states,knowlege is the power that you have to take your self cause nobody is handing that out,we learn totally diffrent things in school that you do and did,but don't stop there try and get a wider prospective of things by reading the sources of what you have read already,every body don't know that the native indians was exploited and treated like shit for the most part and still are,they are now between the bark and the wood when they once was the forest of this nation,relgion greed and ignorance killed the spirit of america and it still is,no matter who you vote for it is all the same and all politicians try to take your eyes from the real problems by creating drama else were so ppl have a false patriotism to lean on,cause the real patriotism for every country is this thoughts.."This land don't belong to me,I just borrow it from my kids"...but those are just words,action is what counts.

[patriotskinhead]

Although I can see why you would say the spirit of our nation was killed and there may be some sense of truth in there, I'd like to believe it hasn't been killed. While this nations history is written mainly as a feel good remedy and to persuade us that the government has done no wrong, there are still people out there in search of the truth. I see my friends in the service, the men in my family that have given themselves to this country, they still believe in freedom. They will give their lives for freedom as well. I believe that we should work on our own nation before we even think of playing the "international good guy." If the people were given the right resources in regards to this country's history and of all the crookedness that is in our system..I'm sure as hell there would be a dramatic change in this country right now. There was something I came across in my book..it's a direct quote from the book 1984.

"He who controls the present controls the past"How people think about their past is an important part of their

"international good guy."

[bigger_boss]

First of all I think it's only americans that think they are the international good guy's besides september 11th. there has not been war fear on american soil since pearl harbor that lasted for a few hours..and before that the sivil war i 18 something..Soldiers should be here and do their work instead of beeing sendt abrord every time a president is pissed of with some body that evan aint a treat on this nation..(Iraq)..the thing going on in Iraq can be justified..I don't blame the soldiers at all I blame the leadership or lack of it,but every day we get are ear pumpt full of how great war is by arm chair wariors that have done nothing for this nation at all,be it the liberals or the republicans,like in 1984 it is al political porpaganda that poor woman and men have to pay the most expensive price for,I think that is wrong but I have no say in that matter,I did my service for my country and I'm proud of it,but ppl must still get their heads out of their asses and get more info on why things happen and not take every thing said by the

[contorted_angel]

For the first time in my life have I come across books that don't sugarcoat my history to me. There have been 2 occassions after reading that I just want to throw my book down, tear my flags off my walls and burn them. The thing that keeps me from doing it is the fact that it serves as a reminder to me that the underclass of this country fought under that flag for the sake of freedom we ourselves are still denied

[patriotskinhead]

Yeah when I read that had been so many people settling in parts of New England earlier than the Pilgrims in 1620..or should I say settlers being the Pilgrims made up 35 out of the 102 people aboard the Mayflower. I mean I knew there were other people that had to have come over, but they are left out. God only knows why. I read about the plague that made the black death in Europe so pale in comparison wiping out about 95% of the people in New England before the Mayflower set

[agorist]

please do... would love to read about what you find out..though I already know majority of the truth..doesnt hurt to learn more and more..

im eric... found you from contorted_angel my sister...hope you dont mind if i add you :)

[patriotskinhead]

Hey Eric. Go right ahead and add me. I'll do the same and add you back. Any friend of hers normally brings about some sort of intelligence no matter the political background. It's always nice to hear different points of view.

[dead_end_st]

talk to me Aron, you ....are in my position, we should chat.'
anywho..nice post :)

[patriotskinhead]

I think I'm going to try and find you on soulseek now. Hopefully you are on. We have somewhat the same views? Well right on for that. :)