Songwriter Tiffany Red Calls Out Popular Singers for Stealing Publishing on Songs They Didn't Write

Feb 20, 2024 00:56


#Beyonce amongst other Artists are being accused of stealing publishings on songs they didn’t write. I believe every single word #TiffanyRed said.

When #Kelis was saying this very same thing about Beyonce stealing her samples for ENERGY on Renaissance, she was attacked on… pic.twitter.com/ncZS24S37M
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beigemediocrity February 20 2024, 06:15:12 UTC
Didn’t Beyoncé try to get a writing credit on You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette because she performed it on tour?

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ponyboy February 20 2024, 06:17:07 UTC
the only source for that is an ontd post that links to a defunct forum

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beigemediocrity February 20 2024, 06:18:37 UTC
Which is enough for me to trust this rumour.

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ponyboy February 20 2024, 06:19:16 UTC
rip media literacy

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mayjailer February 20 2024, 06:16:20 UTC

beyoncé has never been a creative, and the way that she has been able to reposition herself as such since self-titled is fascinating. it shouldn't make her less of an icon in anyone's eyes just because she has never put a pen to paper to write a song in her career. it should make her less of an icon because she's dishonest about it, though, often at actual female songwriters' expense.

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genbu_no_miko24 February 20 2024, 06:20:24 UTC
She wanted it all: Singer, performer, writer, actress, fashion designer etc..etc

I don't mind ambition but I cannot stand when people cannot accept their limitations. She's already a great performer and artist, her legacy is beyond established. But I can't respect the incessant need to be seen as a songwriter when she's probably limited in that respect.

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mayjailer February 20 2024, 06:21:34 UTC

she seemed to make her peace with not being an actress or designer. she should've just taken the l, but then i can't put all the blame on her when the powers that be allowed her a songwriting credit on an "ave maria" cover.

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genbu_no_miko24 February 20 2024, 06:36:47 UTC
lol yep she gave up on the other 2. That credit is a legit joke.

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britty_stitches February 20 2024, 06:17:15 UTC
mess

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genbu_no_miko24 February 20 2024, 06:17:38 UTC
me: lol is Beyonce named?

*reads post*

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donaestrangera February 20 2024, 06:20:30 UTC
re: your point about Britney, i've heard the same about Rihanna! she doesn't pretend she writes her own songs and is fine with giving credit where credit is due so songwriters like working with her.

i feel if Beyonce was more honest about her contribution or lack of to the songwriting aspect of her songs and emphasized the performance aspect where she truly is more talented than nearly everyone else, there wouldn't be such heat for her behind the scenes in the music industry. i remmeber reading some anonymous grammys ballots last year on lipstickalley where a lot of R&B voters were complaining about her stealing songwriting credits and would never vote for her in AOTY for that reason, on top of the other voters who don't want to vote for her for racist reasons.

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genbu_no_miko24 February 20 2024, 06:25:01 UTC
I don't follow Rih that heavily but yeah I don't think I've ever heard people accusing her of stealing credits. I usually criticized Rih's lack of stage performance but if that's true about being fair with the crediting, then I do respect her for that.

And funny enough but Britney and Rihanna have been trashed for being trashy and manufactured and not seen as real artist early in their careers.

" lot of R&B voters were complaining about her stealing songwriting credits and would never vote for her in AOTY for that reason, on top of the other voters who don't want to vote for her for racist reasons."

If that's partially the reason for her not winning then I cunt feel too bad for her cause she deserves that blackballing and besides the racism it would~ sense as to why hasn't been able to win one.

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shittysoup February 20 2024, 07:28:18 UTC
It's interesting because I feel like that's how a lot of SINGERS used to operate. We know Celine and Whitney never wrote their own shit and they never claimed to either. It didn't matter. Get the best song writers on the phone to write for the best singers/performers. Who cares if they wrote it. Even Elton John has a songwriting partner and he's not shy about it and it doesn't diminish his work.

Dolly broke this down on Howard Stern about Elvis being a little thief too, which is how Whitney ended up with "I Will Always Love You":

I actually feel like a part of the reason why music is less complex/kind of shit now is because artists are trying to be songwriters when they're just ...not lol. We need SONGWRITERS back in the mix front and centre and getting paid for it too.

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shittysoup February 20 2024, 06:18:02 UTC
Also check out Tiffany's insta. She has a ton of posts about this issue.

She's also the artist that previously called out SM Entertainment in Korea for not properly compensating artists.

https://instagram.com/p/C3ivtDbvyXY

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steffi_333 February 20 2024, 07:21:12 UTC
Shocked that number 1 isn’t a thing already!

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shittysoup February 20 2024, 07:26:07 UTC
It's crazy. That's what she means when she says people are paying to work. She says lunch isn't even covered for songwriters. It's nuts.

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potter_lover456 February 20 2024, 14:36:25 UTC
These seem like such basic requests and to not even have them :(

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