Happy Fourth of July

[nina_ds]

Happy Fourth of July to all the Americans on my f-list!

In honor of the holiday and in the light of recent events, I recommend this entertaining offering from loltheorists:

Thomas Jefferson sezAs for the Doctor Who companion news... I am feeling remarkably optimistic after feeling alternately disappointed and ticked off. There were some good things in the

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[nina_ds]

I'm guardedly optimistic about Donna, because she had the nous to smack him and tell him to stop. Which is a Very Good Thing in my book. And she was a surprise, which is a good thing, too.

The thing is, they made a huge, awful, irreparable mistake by saddling Martha with the crush. I refuse to call it unrequited love because it arrives full blown in the first episode, and never progresses one way or the other past that. RTD can do unrequited love, in QAF, it's the main theme, but this just wasn't it. They wrote themselves into a corner, and while I'm glad Martha had the dignity to walk away, it's just wrong in all the ways we've been discussing. I don't know how they resolve that without a little palate-clearing. I also hope that when she does come back, it's for the adventure, and not for the Doctor, and I don't really want him to fall in love with her, not because Rose was "special" but because it just makes such a mess. It's not the only way men and women can relate.

I understand sulking, because I'm certainly not happy with the way things have gone. And I may well be done with the show, at least on a fannish level. I've tried too hard for too long to love it the way I loved S1, and I just can't.

[wynterhawk]

Having Ten and Martha the best of friends and traveling buddies was what I really wanted. I did not want them to become lovers. I'm glad that they didn't, but as you've said, the crush thing got in the way of a lot of greatness and it made her character seem to unnecessarily obsessed with him.

I stand firm on the notion that her crush wasn't entirely of her own making. Ten did do that "genetic transfer" thing in the first episode. I believe that he transferred some of his "self-love" to her and therefore bam! She was infatuated! :)

[nina_ds]

the crush thing got in the way of a lot of greatness and it made her character seem to unnecessarily obsessed with him.

To me, that's the worst part of this. It got in the way of everything.

I think Ten is so self-centered that he really doesn't think about anyone or anything but his own happiness. It would be awkward to agree with Martha that she's not second best, so he doesn't do it. I don't believe he loves Rose as much as he did when he was Nine, but he wants someone who will unconditionally adore him (never mind that he wasn't the one she fell in love with). And he will forgive the Master for torturing him, or killing 600 million people, or whatever, just to get the upper hand, but the Family of Blood, who are just obeying the natural drive to survive and reproduce and in the process killing a small number of humans, he not only punishes but punishes with unbelievable cruelty. I mean, aesthetically, I kind of liked it, but it repulsed me at the same time.

And Martha got a thanks and a hug?

GRRRRRRRRR!

[aingeal8c]

The thing is, they made a huge, awful, irreparable mistake by saddling Martha with the crush.

Big yes here. Had they not her character would have been so much better but she has a crush on him from the get go. Then the crush continues even when he treats her so badly.

After Rose it was just a bad idea. But then I think the whole Ten/Eose dynamic was screwed.