Favorite Final Fantasy Antagonist

Jul 05, 2006 20:11

In your eyes who is the best Final Fantasy antagonist? My friend was telling me that Sephiroth was recognized as the best Final Fantasy villain thus far. I don't blame people for considering him the best. He is very powerful and skilled with a sword, has a very interesting history and his motives are simply outrageous, yet deep. But is mere ( Read more... )

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mimi_sardinia July 6 2006, 02:06:24 UTC
Since you say it, I think you're right about Rufus being more an anti-hero, and AC makes that obvious.

As I still have $114 to pay on my PS2 and no memory card I can't speak for Seymour or any other villians but Sephiroth, Jenova, Seifer, Edea and Ultimecia.

Jenova is barely even an issue really, she's there but she really doesn't do much herself - something that's given rise to the whole debate on whether she or Sephiroth was the one in control. Really, she apears for a few fights and says half a line that could have simply been said by Sephiroth anyway.

Sephiroth on the other hand has obvious influence. He does everything, pulls Cloud's strings, plans METEOR, and is the centre of the plot almost all the time, even if his real body is stuck in a chunk of materia at the North Pole for half the game.
Generally, Sephiroth feels important - not every ultimate villian feels that way.

Now FF8:
Seifer I think is a villian by circumstance - he had enough things go wrong for him that his dreams could be manipulated right when the True Villian needed a second-in-command (or a lapdog). Generally, I don't count Seifer as a true villian because he was manipulated into the role - this may be fangirlishness though, I like my yaoi and Seifer is one of my top favourites paired with Squall.

Edea... she's even less a villian and far more a puppet than even Seifer. Seifer may have done some of those things with a degree of willingness (YMMV on how much) but Edea seems to not even be completely aware of everything Ultimecia did while wearing her form.

Now Ultimecia... Yes she's the true villian. She planned everything, manipulated like a master... but she feels remote. You don't even see her until Ellone sends Squall back to find out what happened to Rinoa and right through the game until Fourth Disk she isn't present in person. She seems disconnected - the opposite of what I said before about Sephiroth seeming important.

I will be interested to see exactly what I think about FFX, as it is probably the first game I'll play when I get my PS2.

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x_shock_me_x July 6 2006, 06:29:24 UTC
*fangirl squee*

I LOVE Squall and Siefer!!! *ahem* ok I'll go sit overe here and be quiet now...

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mimi_sardinia July 6 2006, 06:34:20 UTC
LOL, yeah, Seifer is the fallback for me since my No. 1 OTP has issues which make it less than common.

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x_shock_me_x July 9 2006, 17:32:55 UTC
I like Cloud/Squall too so I looveee Kingdom Hearts for making that a possibility! and Cloud/Kadaj, and Cloud/Reno..... *slips into fangirl fantasies*

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mimi_sardinia July 9 2006, 22:43:50 UTC
The issues in my no. 1 OTP? Incest. I still think it's hot as hell though, and half the fun is all the lovely angst that comes along with that.

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neo_rufus July 9 2006, 18:41:41 UTC
I'm glad you agree that Rufus Shinra is an ant-hero. I would like to think of him as an official protagonist, but he isn't 100% trust worthy. :P

LOL! The way you described Jenova's role made me laugh so hard. But it's all true! I'm with you; Jenova wasn't that much of the game's main threat. Sephiroth's actions were based on what Jenova would have wanted from him and following her footsteps, just like in AC. It's just so odd how it's heavily debated about who controls who.

Yeah, Sephiroth was the mastermind behind most of the events. Jenova really didn't plan those events did she? Those who strongly support the idea of her being the number 1 threat should really keep the points you mentioned in mind.

Very deep point! When Seifer dreamt of being a knight, I don't think he wanted it to be like how it was in the game. I'd imagine he wanted to serve somebody around his age and have a romantic kind of relationship like Squall and Rinoa's case. I don't think he wanted to take over the world or anything like that, but he was manipulated into the role and even though he could have turned back he felt as though he couldn't. Not to mention it would make him look pathetic if he withdrew from the role in the earlier stages. It's just interesting how he thinks he's the hero throughout game and looks at Squall and company as the bad guys.

Heh, Edea was pretty clueless. I've never really compared the extent of Seifer's manipulation with hers. That's a new point to me and I'm glad you brought it up. ;)

It was kind of a shame that you didn't see much of Ultimecia. It was quite awesome how she controlled people through time...pure genius.

Oh you'll love FFX. I'm sure you'll have lots to talk about when you play it. ;)

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