30 Rock, General Series, Sex 2, Prompt #19. Rough

[michellek]

Title: The Most Unnecessary of Apologies
Author: michellek
Challenge: drabble123
Fandom: 30 Rock
Pairing: Jack/Liz
Table: Sex 2
Prompt: #19. Rough
Rating: NC-17
Word Count: 300
Summary: The first time Jack merges their sex life with their work life... (Follows " You Know You Want It.")

Disclaimer: Not mine. Don't sue.

Comments

[parisgal3]

so wrong, but so right.

I love how sweet they are, even when they're playing rough.

I think I will take your Jack/Liz as canon since Carlock continues to ruin the hopes and dreams of shippers everywhere.

[frey_at_last]

Damn him!

[michellek]

Will Jack and Avery actually end up getting married eventually? Discuss!

Also, will she ever have a baby bump? (Disregard if she has one in any promo pictures, which I have avoided.)

[frey_at_last]

I don't know - it sounds like they won't this time (THANK GOD, I'm not ready for that), but I reeeeally don't want them to ever. I guess that goes without saying.

I can't really predict what they'll do at this point. I thought the baby might be fake. It seems like they don't want their relationship to seem like a good one, unless it's just the way things roll now. I could see them trying to be brave and actually marry off a main character, even if they have to split later (what will be the plot in season six??) It's just sad it has to sort of diminish Jack in the meantime - if he proposes on a whim, has a kid, splits up with mom later. It's arguable Jack was always a cad with his (romantic) women, but somehow it wasn't this annoying...

As far as I can tell, there isn't a baby bump in the Christmas ep promos - or there's a really small one... and this baby is due when, did they say? Beginning of the year? WUH OH.

[michellek]

The 'we find out not everything went according to plan!' does seem to signal they won't actually get married, but maybe that's a misdirect. I don't know, I'm kind of nervous about this

[mindymakru]

One more comment: I hate how anything a shipper says is dismissed as irrational and dumb just cos it's said by a shipper. It's like we have to prove our point twice as hard and be twice as smart as the people watching just for the comedy. Like we don't want what's best for the show and characters as much as they do. :(

[michellek]

That annoys me, too. :/ And it really pushes my buttons to have what I think/feel dismissed in any situation. Most of my opinions, I think, are pretty rational. (Except for my desire to punch certain characters in commercials in the face.)

[muic]

I know I did see a couple people on tumblr dismissing those who have concerns about them as a couple as crazy Jack/Liz shippers/ladies who are jealous of Avery/blah blah blah

Butting in to say OMG THAT DROVE ME MAD. And there was one post titled 'Avery: most hated character on 30 Rock' and it was how the shippers are irrationally hating on her and how most of us are women complete with a '...'. I had to physically remove myself from the computer because I was so close to replying with some real crazy.

I think the Jack/Liz shippers are a reasonable bunch. Sure some of us say 'gtfo' but for the most part those things are said in jest.

[michellek]

That post was really what spurred me to use my tumblr to (over?)explain my dislike of how Avery's character and the Jack/Avery relationship has been developing. Because, I swear, I would not care for this regardless of who I shipped because... well, you read it on tumblr, so you know the deal. (And the most wtf part of that post was how, "Sure, the Jack/Avery relationship isn't romantic, but you'd hate it more if it were!" Whaaaaaat, I would love for them to be more affectionate. The distance and random meanness is what's bothering me. It seems like him and Bianca, but without the sexual tension.)

I think we are, too... I think it's possible the hate will go over-the-top, but I don't think we're there yet, and I don't think it's wrong to vent a little. Everyone needs to vent!

[mindymakru]

I'm taking the lack of a bump to mean that there is a twist coming. That there's no baby in there.

This message was brought to you by Extreme Shipper Denial, endorsed by Mindy.

[michellek]

I don't think it's that crazy a message! Because I find it so strange that she found out she was pregnant in May, and by the X-mas episode she still doesn't have any baby bump. But on the other hand, it would make no sense for Jack to not notice that his girlfriend doesn't look seven months pregnant. Hence my demanding of an answer as to what the deal is with this bidness.

Maybe babies created by the union of two soulmates have a longer gestation period. And their love is so pure, it will take this baby eight years to be born!

[mindymakru]

Or maybe she's so perfect that she just never shows. This is what I'm thinking, if my other denial theory does not pan out. She's one of those ladies who goes through her whole pregnancy looking like she's growing a jellybaby inside and then POOF! one day there's a fullly grown kid, ta-da!-- and it's like nothing even happened. No swollen ankles, no monstrous breasts (cos Jack mentioned them but it's not like they actually followed through and made her bigger, eyeroll), no tummy fat, no nothing. Cos SHE'S JUUUUUUST THAAAAAAT PEEEEEERFECT

[michellek]

Well, it is true, she is the world's most perfect woman. I bet if Liz got pregnant, she'd be hideous and look like an actual person! Ugh, she is the worst. No wonder why Jack is grossed out by her.

But, really, what the hell is this all about? I need to know when this baby is coming out, so I can steel myself.

On Tumblr I am sticking mostly with the Jack/Liz people, but I kind of couldn't help seeing the post muic and I were referencing, and it bummed me out. I almost responded to it directly, but I feel like that's always going to result in animosity, even if I don't mean it to, since people can be really nasty about Jack/Liz shipping. Because, of course, if I want two characters to get together romantically, it negatively impacts the lives of others in deep, deep ways and they should hate me forever! (Sarcasm all up in this post.) I really don't get why people care so much about what other fans enjoy since, even if a ship annoys you, you can ignore it and move on with your life. At least that's what I've done. But what do I know, I'm

[mindymakru]

Thanku, I appreciate your return sarcasm. I feel validated now.

But, really, what the hell is this all about? I need to know when this baby is coming out, so I can steel myself.

OMG SAME. I need to know whether it is worth still loving this show and these people. I am just waiting now cos I cannot BELIEVE that they think this is the way to go. I mean...WHAT. the. BLERG.

See, I don't get that either. Why do people have to get so nasty about it? There's just no need. They make out that shippers have got it all wrong when it's just another perspective and WE GET THAT. We're not a cult trying to convert everybody or anything. And I might be biased but I think the shippers are the ones that are more reasonable, more cool about it and the ones NOT creating all the division.

[michellek]

Well, the non-shippers are the ones throwing around words like 'crazy' and 'disgusting,' so I daresay I agree with you. I just don't get why the hell anyone would be that annoyed by a ship. And I am kind of easily annoyed.

[mindymakru]

I dunno, maybe these are the people they are making the current show for. They seem to have in common the propensity to hurl insults without much cause (and maybe think it's funny).