AIDS: The Facts.

Nov 20, 2006 09:31

http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

In the commentary of Ron Jeremy's movie, Ron said AIDS was mostly a homosexual male's disease and IV drug users' disease in North America. He explained that at the HIV clinic he would get his monthly tests at, ( Read more... )

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gdh November 22 2006, 03:09:04 UTC
In any population where unprotected sex with many different partners is the norm, you're going to have a much higher rate of STD spread. And that was the norm for a lot of the gay male community in America in the 1970s and 1980s. Which is a perfectly logical thing to happen when you tell hundreds of thousands of horny men that can't have open, socially accepted relationships, and instead have to seek gratification furtively.

AIDS isn't a "gay disease", it's an "unprotected promiscuity" disease.

Being gay could often mean being promiscuous, particularly around the time of the beginning of the AIDS epidemic in America. But being promiscuous was the immediate risk intensifier, not being gay in of itself.

The numbers will start to even out as homosexuality becomes more socially accepted.

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mattcanning November 22 2006, 18:17:33 UTC
True in points. Promiscuity is a problem for the spread of HIV.

I should warn you this is a PDF file, so be conscious of that before opening it:

Economics of Sexuality PDF

Go to page 37.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission is 0.2% for vaginal insertive sex. This means I would have to have sex with five hundred women with HIV before the odds of me getting it strike, or have sex with one woman with HIV five hundred times. Compare that to anal-receptive sex where the odds are 0.8%, or one in 125 (four times the risk). Now let's also use some common sense other than strict science and point out that anal sex is more predominant in the gay community. Also, the overwhelming majority of the 58,000 people today with HIV are homosexual men or drug users. Straight men are a very small part of this picture.

I have many more scientific studies to show you if you wish. Here's another:

Baeten JM, Richardson BA, Lavreys L, et al. Female-to-male infectivity of HIV-1 among circumcised and uncircumcised Kenyan men. J Infect Dis ( ... )

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mattcanning November 22 2006, 20:47:30 UTC
Oops, I said 0.2% compared to 0.8%.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission for vaginal insertive sex is 0.02%, not 0.2%. Meaning the odds of a straight male contracting HIV through a woman is 1 in 5,000. Check the references if you wish, that is scientific fact, not opinion.

So anal receptive sex is 40 times more likely to transmit HIV than vaginal insertive sex.

I get the point that the disease "doesn't discriminate" in a traditional sense of the word, but anal sex is far more dangerous, and what exactly is a person like me not receiving? Anal sex. And what are homosexuals receiving? [...] That's my point. I also have no plans on ever having anal sex with a woman.

You are right that if everyone used protection that incidence of the spread of HIV would be much lower though.

"But the politically incorrect truth is rarely spoken out loud: The dreaded heterosexual epidemic never happened ( ... )

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the H in Homosexuals is for HIV gdh November 23 2006, 02:55:39 UTC
I wish they could just keep their goddam cocks out of each others asses, they are draining our tax money, my money isn't meant to be spent on treatment of some homo who couldn't wrap his tool when inserting it is some other dudes ass. Fags should be more responsible.

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Re: the H in Homosexuals is for HIV mattcanning November 24 2006, 16:47:52 UTC
ic.

Let's see if this person comes back...

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