AIDS: The Facts.

[mattcanning]

http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

In the commentary of Ron Jeremy's movie, Ron said AIDS was mostly a homosexual male's disease and IV drug users' disease in North America. He explained that at the HIV clinic he would get his monthly tests at,

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[mattcanning]

True in points. Promiscuity is a problem for the spread of HIV.

I should warn you this is a PDF file, so be conscious of that before opening it:

Economics of Sexuality PDF

Go to page 37.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission is 0.2% for vaginal insertive sex. This means I would have to have sex with five hundred women with HIV before the odds of me getting it strike, or have sex with one woman with HIV five hundred times. Compare that to anal-receptive sex where the odds are 0.8%, or one in 125 (four times the risk). Now let's also use some common sense other than strict science and point out that anal sex is more predominant in the gay community. Also, the overwhelming majority of the 58,000 people today with HIV are homosexual men or drug users. Straight men are a very small part of this picture.

I have many more scientific studies to show you if you wish. Here's another:

Baeten JM, Richardson BA, Lavreys L, et al. Female-to-male infectivity of HIV-1 among circumcised and uncircumcised Kenyan men. J Infect Dis. 2005;191:546-553.

If straight men have sex with straight women who have sex with straight men [...], promiscuous or not, the transmission to a straight male is so rare it is not worth talking about any more than talking about getting struck by lightning. The overall cases of heterosexuals with HIV will still be an underwhelming minority, men in particular.

If gay men have anal sex with other gay men who have anal sex with other gay men [...], they will still compromise the overwhelming majority of HIV cases.

As for promiscuity, everyone is promiscuous these days - the majority of cases of HIV are still from homosexuals or IV drug users. Promiscuous heterosexual people are not getting HIV nearly as much as the aforementioned group even with everything being equal, because the probability of transmission is scientifically much lower.

Today, no matter how you cut it, HIV is a gay male and IV drug user's disease. It is fact. If 88% of HIV cases fall into either of these category's, is that statement not perfectly fair? Only 12% are heterosexual non drug user cases. Even if your hypothetical situation rolled out, this latter figure would not go much higher than it currently is.

Politically correct - no. True - absolutely. Unfortunately, the religious hatemongers are right about this one.

People should have responsible sex - meaning to use protection when it is warranted. As you said, if everyone were not promiscuous, the virus would be transmitted a lot less. I don't think that is a very realistic model though, and that is why it is pragmatic to say that AIDS is still mostly a gay man's disease/IV drug user's disease. People will always be promiscuous.

The brainwashing of our generation pisses me off - but not as much as the brainwashing of our parent's generation.

[mattcanning]

Oops, I said 0.2% compared to 0.8%.

The per-contact probability of HIV transmission for vaginal insertive sex is 0.02%, not 0.2%. Meaning the odds of a straight male contracting HIV through a woman is 1 in 5,000. Check the references if you wish, that is scientific fact, not opinion.

So anal receptive sex is 40 times more likely to transmit HIV than vaginal insertive sex.

I get the point that the disease "doesn't discriminate" in a traditional sense of the word, but anal sex is far more dangerous, and what exactly is a person like me not receiving? Anal sex. And what are homosexuals receiving? [...] That's my point. I also have no plans on ever having anal sex with a woman.

You are right that if everyone used protection that incidence of the spread of HIV would be much lower though.

"But the politically incorrect truth is rarely spoken out loud: The dreaded heterosexual epidemic never happened."

"Female to male transmission is very inefficient, says Dr. Nancy Padian a professor in the department of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive science at the University of California, San Francisco and the author of a 1996 10 year study of HIV infected heterosexual couples, the nation's longest and largest. She points out that "it's two to three times easier for men to infect women." But even so, if there are no other risk factors involved, the rate at which an infected man will transmit the virus to a woman is one in 1,100 sex acts."

http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

Facts, even facts like these, are never more dangerous than lying to people.

the H in Homosexuals is for HIV

[mattcanning]

I wish they could just keep their goddam cocks out of each others asses, they are draining our tax money, my money isn't meant to be spent on treatment of some homo who couldn't wrap his tool when inserting it is some other dudes ass. Fags should be more responsible.

Re: the H in Homosexuals is for HIV

[mattcanning]

ic.

Let's see if this person comes back...