[#277] DH: Chapters 11, 12 & 13

Sep 15, 2007 13:52

Yeah, 3 chapters in one, but there aren't many quotes for the last two.

Chapter 11: "The Bribe"

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hp, book 7

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hassibah September 15 2007, 23:25:44 UTC
But you know, I thought Voldemort didn't really care about pure blood. Like, I can buy that he hates Muggles, but not "Mudbloods". I always thought he was too smart for that sort of prejudice, and just used the agenda to win over the pureblood elitists and get minions.
yes, i thought something like this too, but i could totally see him just letting them do whatever they want. he doesn't really value the lives of any of his closest followers, i can't see that being that big a concern for him so long as he has power.
that doesn't really fit in with the way he was talking in the first chapter though, so oh well.

i've never known anyone to hate ron.

"pants" means underpants, no trousers!

they never said hermione's patronus was a sea otter though, did they? there are otters that are regular land mammals, very similar to the weasel>.<
not that i think it would matter for patronuses.

i'm all talked out about remus, i think i'll sit that one out.

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lunylucy September 16 2007, 02:35:36 UTC
Yeah, I guess once he took over he had to let his followers do whatever the heck they wanted in terms of the pureblood stuff.

Oh, there are quite a few Ron haters. Well, I can see where they're coming from based on his more immature moments but meh.

"pants" means trousers in American English!

And well any otter is more flexible in water, right? I'm just wandering about animals who move easier in water than on land.

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hassibah September 16 2007, 04:18:10 UTC
oh yeah i remember there being complaints about that, but like, that's what makes ron a real person to me, that he's a very human kid and his arc of growing up isn't that far behind harry's. i guess i just understand his insecurities, hating him for it never really occured to me. plus it makes the books like a hundred times less boring ( ... )

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lunylucy September 16 2007, 05:17:43 UTC
Haha you know I think a lot of people who hate Ron are the Hermione/Harry shippers.

But also I find it really ironic how people complain that Jo's good guys are too perfect and stuff, and then turn around and say they hate Tonks for being depressed or Harry for being emo or Ron for being immature or Hermione for being the way she is. It's like, what?

Yeah, I figure Remus just freaked.

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hassibah September 16 2007, 14:31:57 UTC
i actually got into a long assed discussion about hermione in read_hp with someone that was seriously disappointed that she didn't have some kind of breakdown and thought jo was neglecting her for not giving her ron/neville like development moments in the last book. i disagreed, she's far from perfect, just a lot of her moments happened earlier. but i was kind of wishing that her book would turn out to have like magical nunchucks in it that would come out in a really desperate moment.

..this is def a modern fantasy tale, i mean if you want two-dimensional good/bad characters you have lotr, star wars, frank miller, conan, the bible and about a million other things. there's a reason why i'm into hp and not any of them.

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lunylucy September 16 2007, 21:01:34 UTC
wait. ron/neville?

And haha, I can just imagine the King's Cross chapter and Harry's like, "By the way, thanks for that book Dumbledore, it taught us a lot about the Deathly Hallows." And Dumbledore would say, "WTF, dude, you mean you guys didn't get the magical nunchucks of doom out of it?"

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hassibah September 16 2007, 22:27:23 UTC
oh i meant how r/n both had this pivotal/super dramatic moment where they symbolically slayed their issues, both with that sexy griffindor sword. the only female character whose demons we dealt with in a similar way was molly, i think. hermione's growth was more gradual, and she just kind of figured things out on her own.

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