[#277] DH: Chapters 11, 12 & 13

Sep 15, 2007 13:52

Yeah, 3 chapters in one, but there aren't many quotes for the last two.

Chapter 11: "The Bribe"

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hassibah September 16 2007, 04:18:10 UTC
oh yeah i remember there being complaints about that, but like, that's what makes ron a real person to me, that he's a very human kid and his arc of growing up isn't that far behind harry's. i guess i just understand his insecurities, hating him for it never really occured to me. plus it makes the books like a hundred times less boring.
there's similar comments i read like "oh i really liked tonks but i hated her after she got depressed," and i JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THEM. real people are not this inpenetrable wall of awesome coming at you all the time, they have problems and they get sad, sometimes they act irrationally and other stuff. you don't like it and you're not supposed to, but i don't get writing a whole person off just for something like that. i think that's really weird.
unless these are people that just hate them for shipping-related bitterness, then n/m.

i feel like remus(ok i lied) was just used to show how scary the new regime was. like, reading about the coup and how fast the muggle born persecution is happening was scary in itself, but i figure jo wanted to show the effect it was having on the world, and as one of its more vulnerable and insecure members he would be one of the first to crack. LETTING THE TERRORISTS WIN or whatever. yeh there's a lot more you can read into it if you want, i'm just not going there.

the pants that don't have legs are funnier!

and i dunno, i figured regular otters would be just like ferrets and weasels. like they can swim but i don't know how well. but i know nothing about animals so never mind me.

damn i talk alot.

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lunylucy September 16 2007, 05:17:43 UTC
Haha you know I think a lot of people who hate Ron are the Hermione/Harry shippers.

But also I find it really ironic how people complain that Jo's good guys are too perfect and stuff, and then turn around and say they hate Tonks for being depressed or Harry for being emo or Ron for being immature or Hermione for being the way she is. It's like, what?

Yeah, I figure Remus just freaked.

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hassibah September 16 2007, 14:31:57 UTC
i actually got into a long assed discussion about hermione in read_hp with someone that was seriously disappointed that she didn't have some kind of breakdown and thought jo was neglecting her for not giving her ron/neville like development moments in the last book. i disagreed, she's far from perfect, just a lot of her moments happened earlier. but i was kind of wishing that her book would turn out to have like magical nunchucks in it that would come out in a really desperate moment.

..this is def a modern fantasy tale, i mean if you want two-dimensional good/bad characters you have lotr, star wars, frank miller, conan, the bible and about a million other things. there's a reason why i'm into hp and not any of them.

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lunylucy September 16 2007, 21:01:34 UTC
wait. ron/neville?

And haha, I can just imagine the King's Cross chapter and Harry's like, "By the way, thanks for that book Dumbledore, it taught us a lot about the Deathly Hallows." And Dumbledore would say, "WTF, dude, you mean you guys didn't get the magical nunchucks of doom out of it?"

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hassibah September 16 2007, 22:27:23 UTC
oh i meant how r/n both had this pivotal/super dramatic moment where they symbolically slayed their issues, both with that sexy griffindor sword. the only female character whose demons we dealt with in a similar way was molly, i think. hermione's growth was more gradual, and she just kind of figured things out on her own.

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