It's not hard to see or write how they could utilize their skills effectively in battle, and I don't peg a single one of them as categorically 'the weakest".This this this this this
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Hrm, my actual personal take on the way their elements work is that they don't have complete manipulative control over them. They have certain attacks and abilities, and may be able to do some smaller stuff in addition -like warming a cup of coffee- and side effects (Larxene and static)but for the most part they can't do absolutely everything, which I like only because it waves away a couple of the plot-hole-issues with the battles in KH (You start getting too creative with elemental powers and you can do anything. A limit on those abilities may explain why Axel, for example, doesn't just set everyone on fire in his fights
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You know what else pisses me off in general? Seme/dom/top = bigger. IT DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK THAT WAY.
Seriously, I practically mainline Xigbar/Vexen, and while Vex is in no way submissive or an uke or what have you, he does seem to be on the bottom more often than not (because he LIKES it, not because he's somehow deficient in the masculinity department). And Xigbar comes up to, like, Vexen's nose.
I also 'ship Sally and Zechs from Gundam Wing (het, but the point holds), and short little Sally definitely wears the pants.
FUCK I JUST HATE THE WHOLE SEME/UKE THING PERIOD. DX Sure it's got traceable roots, but it makes for HIGHLY predictable, unsatisfactory reading.
Man, I know how you feel! Obviously I see this happening a lot with Zexion along with some character rape on occasion, but that's for another rant, and I just have to laugh maniacally. From all his actions in the game, from him telling off Vexen to ordering Lexaeus around to making Riku his bitch, Zexion strikes me as the type who wouldn't be able to stand being on bottom.
Either get on your knees, bitch, or die. XD
Of course, some of my other muses find this an attractive trait. Right, Tony Stark? Doo de doot,just playing with my logical crack ships, don't mind me...
Y'know, I've always seen Zexion as very much an in control kind of guy, too. I don't really ship him with anyone, since he looks like a kid (BbS screenshots of Ienzo DID NOT HELP) and honestly, I enjoy him as an overall mastermind more than a sexual manipulator. But he's definitely the type who would take charge in that kind of situation and goddamn it he is not emo. Even if he's opted to be on the bottom, he's the kind of guy who would dom from down there. Not unlike Xemnas, actually; I can see Xem enjoying letting someone fuck him, because even in that situation, he is in absolute control of everything and that's what really gets him going. It's not the sex, it's the power trip.
I could go on for hours with the character rape that crops up in MarVex, where people completely twist Vexen's character for the sake of making him a victim, or BOTH their characters for the sake of pink cotton candy true love fluff-sex. And people wonder why I hate the pairing now.And pssh, that can totally be an attractive trait. >3 Again, Zechs totally
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I always thought he looked pretty mature in Re: CoM, and then BBS completely blindsided me. I mean, I knew he would be young, but whoa, not THAT young. Either way, I agree with him being an overall manipulator who enjoys getting his way and having people under his thumb.
Ooooh, interesting thought on Xemnas.
I think anyone could go on forever about 411 character rape. XD
Yeah, Zexion in CoM looks... obviously younger than the rest, but you could believe that he's in his early twenties (and he's going on 80 in terms of cynicism and entitlement). Ienzo was just a shock, to say the least. I expected the Apprentices to look younger, but I figured that Ienzo would have grown out of needing a babysitter! Poor Even. I like to imagine him as getting stuck on 'keep Ienzo from getting stepped on' duty, being exasperated about having to get a step-stool so that Ienzo can see onto the lab benches, and on his bad days asking in a rather waspish tone whether 'will that be all, or would you like juice and a cookie and a story before your naptime
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Before BBS, I personally had Ienzo having lost his heart at somewhere around 18 years just barely 17 when it concerns my sister RPing her Marluxia muse who wants in his pants XD Just to fuck with her and as Nobodies are stuck in the age they lost their hearts at supposedly, that would leave him mentally 28. That's just how I played it anyway. Then BBS comes and I'm not sure what the hell to think
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Oh man, IKR? And Vexen is only the third tallest! I mean, Ienzo was a wee little thing, and he grew by the time we Zexion in CoM, but when I saw the scan of Ienzo and Even from BbS I freaked. Lexaeus, Xaldin, and Vexen are far and away the tallest members of the Organization, and makes sense that they'd be the largest of the Somebodies as well, but I wasn't prepared for mini!Ienzo.
It's weird, too, because they're all huge in different ways. Aeleus is a frickin' mountain, Dilan looks like an enormous carrot (big upper body, slim hips), and Even is just HELLA tall but nicely proportioned -- it's like they took a relatively normal, somewhat hip-py guy, and just made him way above normal scale.
Milk, it does an Apprentice good, I guess? I want whatever the hell they've been eating, I know that much. My 5'-4" ass could use it.
And then Braig's actually a reasonable height, and Isa and Lea are just a little on the tall side (or rather, Saix and Axel are, since Isa and Lea are kids). Incidentally, I suppose it shows what several years of fan speculation can achieve that those were my preferred names for those two before they became canon. Not to mention - hold on, do Braig, Dilan, and Isa have pointy ears, or is it just their Nobodies? I never figured out what was up with that.
Yeah, I've always figure Xigbar/Braig was about... oh, 5'-8"? 5'-9"? Not tiny, but not a giant, either. And Vexen/Even clocks in at about 6'-4" or 6'-5", judging from their height difference. I totally wrote Saix down in my mind as Isa, but I'm quite disenchanted with Axel and never really thought about him. Still don't, except with distaste. Actually, BbS in general leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm still debating whether to make myself suffer through it first-hand.
Braig, Isa, and Dilan... Crap, IDK. My hard drive failed catastrophically last week and I lost all of my BbS pictures and a huge amount of other stuff as well. I seem to remember Braig having them, at least, along with brown eyes. In the one crappy picture of Dilan I have online, his ears look pretty normal.
I might be misremembering Xaldin having them... But KH Wiki confirms Braig having pointy ears (or the pictures do), and says Isa doesn't. I think with Saix the pointy ears are just playing up the werewolf thing. It doesn't look like Dilan does, either.
Yeah, it really does come down to personal interpretation of things. I figure the Org can't do everything, but they do have a very high level of control -- you just don't see that in the game because if you did, there wouldn't BE a game, LOL. Kind of like how they conveniently forgot that Vexen is, y'know, smart and probably not oblivious to what's going on around him when they decided to have Axel off him. And then Xemnas and his crazy keep them more or less in line
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Water is basically pointless to keep around if you have Blizzaga, for example
I personally don't agree with this, mainly I think because I played FFX to start. In there, ice and water are equal. The elemental polarities go like this: Fire<>Ice Thunder<>Water If you use, say, Ice or Fire on a Water beast it would do half damage, Thunder would do 2x damage, and Water would heal it. (I think.) So I feel that Vexen vs. Demyx would have to be called off. They're technically the same element, so Demyx might make 5-foot tsunamis and exploding bubbles but Vexen would be able to freeze them. Demyx might possibly win in my mind, but only because Vexen spends so much of his time in the lab. I don't believe we ever fight him, so I don't know how strong he is.
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Seriously, I practically mainline Xigbar/Vexen, and while Vex is in no way submissive or an uke or what have you, he does seem to be on the bottom more often than not (because he LIKES it, not because he's somehow deficient in the masculinity department). And Xigbar comes up to, like, Vexen's nose.
I also 'ship Sally and Zechs from Gundam Wing (het, but the point holds), and short little Sally definitely wears the pants.
FUCK I JUST HATE THE WHOLE SEME/UKE THING PERIOD. DX Sure it's got traceable roots, but it makes for HIGHLY predictable, unsatisfactory reading.
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Obviously I see this happening a lot with Zexion along with some character rape on occasion, but that's for another rant, and I just have to laugh maniacally. From all his actions in the game, from him telling off Vexen to ordering Lexaeus around to making Riku his bitch, Zexion strikes me as the type who wouldn't be able to stand being on bottom.
Either get on your knees, bitch, or die. XD
Of course, some of my other muses find this an attractive trait. Right, Tony Stark?
Doo de doot,just playing with my logical crack ships, don't mind me...
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I could go on for hours with the character rape that crops up in MarVex, where people completely twist Vexen's character for the sake of making him a victim, or BOTH their characters for the sake of pink cotton candy true love fluff-sex. And people wonder why I hate the pairing now.And pssh, that can totally be an attractive trait. >3 Again, Zechs totally ( ... )
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Ooooh, interesting thought on Xemnas.
I think anyone could go on forever about 411 character rape. XD
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What do they feed these people in Hollow Bastion? Seriously, Dilan, Even, and Elaeus are all huge. So's Xehanort, a little less.
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It's weird, too, because they're all huge in different ways. Aeleus is a frickin' mountain, Dilan looks like an enormous carrot (big upper body, slim hips), and Even is just HELLA tall but nicely proportioned -- it's like they took a relatively normal, somewhat hip-py guy, and just made him way above normal scale.
Milk, it does an Apprentice good, I guess? I want whatever the hell they've been eating, I know that much. My 5'-4" ass could use it.
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Braig, Isa, and Dilan... Crap, IDK. My hard drive failed catastrophically last week and I lost all of my BbS pictures and a huge amount of other stuff as well. I seem to remember Braig having them, at least, along with brown eyes. In the one crappy picture of Dilan I have online, his ears look pretty normal.
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I personally don't agree with this, mainly I think because I played FFX to start. In there, ice and water are equal. The elemental polarities go like this:
Fire<>Ice
Thunder<>Water
If you use, say, Ice or Fire on a Water beast it would do half damage, Thunder would do 2x damage, and Water would heal it. (I think.)
So I feel that Vexen vs. Demyx would have to be called off. They're technically the same element, so Demyx might make 5-foot tsunamis and exploding bubbles but Vexen would be able to freeze them. Demyx might possibly win in my mind, but only because Vexen spends so much of his time in the lab. I don't believe we ever fight him, so I don't know how strong he is.
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