Georgia State Court decides Obama is NOT eligible for Presidency

[jordan179]

The details here, by Craig Andreson in "Obama Eligibility Court Case ... Blow by Blow" (January 26th, 2012, The National Patriot

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/?p=4138

The judge first determined that Obama's father had never been an American citizen.

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Natural Born Citizen.

[anonymous]

Obama, like all US citizens born in the USA, is a Natural Born Citizen. The meaning of Natural Born refers to the PLACE of birth, not the parents.

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

“Based on the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural born-born subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [ ] natural-born citizens.”--- Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana, 916 NE2d 678, 688 (2009), (Ind.Supreme Court, Apr. 5, 2010)

“If allowing the recognition of citizenship under the law of foreign nations were determinative of natural born citizenship in the United States-as now argued by some advocates-then the operation of foreign law would, in effect, impact and be determinative of who is eligible to be President of the United States, a result wholly at odds with U.S. national sovereignty, that is, the“inherent right of every independent nation” to determine what classes of persons are to be its citizens.”---
Qualifications for President and the “Natural Born” Citizenship Eligibility Requirement, Jack Maskell, Congressional Research Service, November 2011.

Re: Natural Born Citizen.

[jordan179]

Revealed this too.

Re: Natural Born Citizen.

[gothelittle]

That's why the court case included the problems with the long-form that multiple expert witnesses said should have at least been investigated for possible forgery, because part of the case is that there may not be sufficient evidence to prove that Obama was born on U.S. Soil.

Re: Natural Born Citizen.

[cutelildrow]

If Natural Born Citizen = jus solis, then that's the sum and total of whether or not my daughter is one (and thus, eligible for Presidency) - at least, from my understanding of the Wong Kim Ark ruling (I'm just using my daughter as the example as the situation is easier in the 'natural born citizen' angle - mother not a US citizen, daughter was born in the US and obtained citizenship via jus solis. Not using her because I think she should be President - I frankly don't think she should be, largely because she was raised outside of the US, though the culture is not so different.)

I still think that the crux of the case is whether or not Obama was born on US soil - and if he wasn't, investigation of the other qualifying laws apply. The problems with the long-form really is worrisome; that he didn't reveal them to allay the worries is eyebrow-raising.

...doh. I fell asleep while typing this out. I've lost my train of thought. -_-;;; sorry.

Re: Natural Born Citizen.

[gothelittle]

S'ok :) you managed to come up with something interesting anyways.

"Not using her because I think she should be President - I frankly don't think she should be, largely because she was raised outside of the US, though the culture is not so different.)"

Whether or not Obama fits the specific letter of the law, he most certainly does not fit the spirit... being that the President should have the strongest tie possible to his own country. He was raised mostly in Indonesia, which is a *very* different culture.

Re: Natural Born Citizen.

[gothelittle]

Long enough to mix up the number of states in the Union with the number of Arab Nations when he got tired on a long campaign trail.