College Brainwashing

Sep 07, 2005 21:38

One of my brothers is taking a sociology class; his liberal professor assigned him four articles to read before the next class. Three were by liberals (including Paul Krugman) and one was by a conservative who was criticizing the President. Fair and balanced? He also has to read a book written by the vice-chair of the Democratic Socialists of Read more... )

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invisible9fire September 8 2005, 16:38:07 UTC
Out of curiosity, and without the intent of sounding rude --

would you mind if the professor presented a singularly conservative point of view?

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conservative professors hebrewhammer777 September 9 2005, 04:13:44 UTC
Completely fair question; the answer is the same: I don't want bias in the classroom. Some of my best professors at Babson (Professors Hotchkiss, Bruyneel, Bortman, Lester and Sullivan, in case anyone was wondering) were various shades of liberal but they all managed to keep their bias out of the classroom in most cases (Hotchkiss didn't early in the semester, but she was fair in assigning articles with competing opinions).

Anyway, I don't want a biased conservative anymore than a biased liberal -- I just find that the vast majority of professors who use their classes as a soapbox are liberal.

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Re: conservative professors microphonefiend September 13 2005, 02:46:05 UTC
that's a lie. i think youre brain is cloudy, and that everytime you hear a liberal speak, you consider it "using the classroom as a soapbox" but when a conservative speaks, you consider it "telling the truth." a lot of times i see it the exact opposite way.. because maybe im a little bit liberal, which makes you a lot a bit conservative. ..and you do want a biased conservative, you'd love a biased conservative to take control of a classroom! how do i know that? because whenever you turn our house into a classroom, you teach with tons of bias!

go ahead, tell me im wrong. tell me that youre very fair to liberal guests.

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Re: conservative professors hebrewhammer777 September 13 2005, 02:53:34 UTC
A lie? Monkey, how the hell would you know? Have you ever had a class with me? I've criticized DeBlasio for using her classroom as a conservative soapbox but she's the *only* conservative teacher/professor I've ever had who did that. So basically, you're so wrong that you deserve to be slapped silly ( ... )

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Re: conservative professors microphonefiend September 13 2005, 03:05:06 UTC
you made that palestinian sympathizer cry.

you threatened to hit my communist friend.

i think you actually did hit my anarchist friend.

you get grama riled up at the dinner table.

you scared aunt marilyn.

you scare mom.

you made me vote for bush, when i was gonna vote for someone funnier.

and i like how you tell me what position i take when i clearly know what position im taking.
im liberal. not because i think or act like a liberal, but because youre conservative, and you offend people.

and do you really think that ZAK is being brainwashed by a *teacher*?
Zak doesnt listen to anyone, why would he listen to a teacher?
Especially sociology! He's taking that for credits, not for any academic enlightenment.

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Re: conservative professors hebrewhammer777 September 13 2005, 03:14:01 UTC
Ah, I thought you were referring to guests on my blog. Regardless:

you made that palestinian sympathizer cry

Who? What? When? (I wish!)

you threatened to hit my communist friend.

Perhaps, but probably in jest. Again: who/what/when?

you get grama riled up at the dinner table.

Not true and she's senile anyway.

you scared aunt marilyn.

When/how? She's a socialist anyway, I should scare her!

you scare mom.

Not true at all. I'd like at least one example that's not made up.

you made me vote for bush, when i was gonna vote for someone funnier.

I didn't *make* you do anything, I simply appealed to your logic and reasoning skills and you *chose* to vote for the better of the two main candidates.

and i like how you tell me what position i take when i clearly know what position im taking

Actually, you don't.

im liberal.You couldn't even define liberal. One day you're conservative, the next you're moderate, then you're apathetic, then you're liberal. It all depends on who the last person was that you talked to. You're for ( ... )

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Re: conservative professors microphonefiend September 13 2005, 03:30:23 UTC
palestinian sympathizer : marks friend, last summer i think.. he was crying ( ... )

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Re: conservative professors hebrewhammer777 September 13 2005, 03:40:01 UTC
Mark's friend who? Where? I have no recollection of that (and I'm pretty sure that I would remember it if it had really happened because I would've been pretty damned proud of myself).

Grandma doesn't get riled up. She can't even hear me (or anyone for that matter).

I'm glad I "scared" Marilyn (though you have no proof that she was scared).

No proof about Mom either. She's not scared at all; she even agrees with me 80-90% of the time. Stop imagining things.

I never hit you over voting. I might hit you over this.

You were never the anti-me; you were the wanna-be-me. From Legos to karate, you copied everything I did growing up. Now you want to be independent and you were always argumentative so you're putting on this farce but one day, you'll realize that you're a conservative and you'll feel much better.

and zak doesnt admit that hes a conservative, he tells you that because hes was smart...Wrong. It's in his facebook profile and he's constantly trying to convince his girlfriend and other friends that they're wrong when they make ( ... )

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Re: conservative professors jijiman September 13 2005, 04:59:17 UTC
and zak doesnt admit that hes a conservative, he tells you that because hes was smart...

and zak doesnt listen to anyone. he only does what he likes when he likes. hes a no bullshit guywell id like to say that yea im conservative, ive had enough experience hearing both sides to find out what type of world view i have. jared you are probably more conservative then you think. the sociology class i took was very clearly biased and i feel bad for anyone taking the class that doesnt have any knowledge of the issues. meg took a sociology class and her teacher was the same way and she was pretty much brainwashed, she was coming home with papers that were compleatly one sided, like they would have scewed facts. jason isnt just imagining this, its a real life thing. also i dated a girl recently and i decided not to continue it cause of her political views, every time the issue would come up (and i dont like politics but they came up anyways) we would disagree. so i suppose i am conservitive and being in this engineering school it seems that ( ... )

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Re: conservative professors hebrewhammer777 September 13 2005, 05:06:22 UTC
I didn't think it was the wire because both of our computers went offline but then mine came back while hers didn't. I figured the computer was having problems reading it or that it was Comcasts problem again.

Good point about Jared not just following me. Glad you set him straight otherwise.

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