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kankurette January 22 2012, 19:37:02 UTC
Erm...I don't think she should be compared with Aizen. Since he's a canon character and I really doubt Kubo had anything to do with Kujo's creation. Also, someone rightfully called the poster on it.
- Double Standards: There are many, MANY insanely overpowered characters in Bleach. Kokuto? Arturo Plateado? Bansui Amatsuki? Sosuke Aizen? Genryusai Yamamoto? Ichigo Kurosaki? They're all men, so they pass. A woman is overpowered, though? UN-A-CCEP-TA-BLE. KILL HER. KILL HER WITH FIRE.
- Unfortunate Implications: According to MANY loud fans, women aren't allowed to have lots of power and the spotlight on Bleach, otherwise she is to be (insert: bashed, slutshamed, falsely accused of Mary Suedom, etc.) but it gets worse. Kageroza has been better received even though he's about as broken and quite literally her Evil Counterpart and Spear Counterpart. This could be more because he's used his powers a bit more cleverly and everyone was sick of Aizen.Kageroza was just as bad, IMO. Yes, Kujo's pretty overpowered for a filler character but so ( ... )

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ladyhadhafang January 22 2012, 20:03:30 UTC
TV Tropes is a pretty misogynistic site in general.

This. Just this.

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beata_malfoy January 22 2012, 20:12:13 UTC
It's an otherwise great site, but has fallen prey to Fan Dumb and Hate Dumb. It's basically a case of "great site, terrible people". A lot of users seem to think they know everything about analyzing fiction, when in truth they can't move past black-and-white archtypes. They seem to enjoy taking a complex character and then stripping them of their layers until they get either "PURE GOOD" or "PURE EVIL". I stick mainly to the objective tropes and occasionally dabble into the subjective ones.

And yes, I do remember some of the more misogynist users like that one guy who said that, while watching Glee, he and his friends were ROOTING for Will to hit his wife after learning about her fake pregnancy because of the "not okay to hit a girl" trope. I think a lot of female characters who get bashed by male users remind said users of their ex-girlfriends in some shape or form.

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ladyhadhafang January 22 2012, 20:22:16 UTC
They seem to enjoy taking a complex character and then stripping them of their layers until they get either "PURE GOOD" or "PURE EVIL".

Tell me about it. I mean, God! D:

And yes, I do remember some of the more misogynist users like that one guy who said that, while watching Glee, he and his friends were ROOTING for Will to hit his wife after learning about her fake pregnancy because of the "not okay to hit a girl" trope. I think a lot of female characters who get bashed by male users remind said users of their ex-girlfriends in some shape or form.

That or they just suck. But yeah...this, seriously.

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gabzillaz January 23 2012, 01:15:38 UTC
Ew

I see Bleachness has moved to TvTropes.

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minilovely January 23 2012, 01:20:06 UTC
To be honest, I don't care for TVTropes much. The actual tropes/definitions themselves are generally well-thought out and interesting, but there's a lot on the site that needs to be taken with a grain of salt, something I think is well-demonstrated by the above.

Also, I find people using terms coined by TVTropes off-site kind of obnoxious, but I realize not everyone is going to agree with me there.

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panda_swirl January 23 2012, 03:52:29 UTC
This is exactly why my interest in trying to start watching/reading Bleach is dropping IMMENSELY.......pity.

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kankurette January 26 2012, 19:31:13 UTC
I've pretty much quit capslock_bleach because of this sort of thing. The sad thing was, CLB used to take the piss out of all that crap and character bashing was banned. I stopped doing recaps a while back because it's just not fun anymore and barely anyone reads them anyway.

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dropsofgleam January 26 2012, 22:01:41 UTC
AFAIK, they only objected to bashing when it wasn't against Orihime and Ichigo/Orihime.

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