So i was reading Miss Emily's post about the tsunami..... and it got me to thinking........ and then to discussing........ and now to maybe beleiving
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iiiinteresting...twowayaddictionJanuary 10 2005, 02:14:07 UTC
Hmm, very interesting indeed. Almost chilling.
Although, there have always been earthquakes and famine and large natural disasters. They've shaped the face of our Earth.
Neither is war or famine new, or increasing at any dramatic rate. If there was any factor contributing to the death tolls or the number or people affected it would be our increasing world population and the population density of third world countries- the places most hard-hit by natural disasters and disease. Naturally, there will be more dead if countries aren't prepared to deal with the casualties.
Japan has long dealt with tidal waves and tsunamis, and respect for them is part of their culture. There's a lot of art and writings that tell of the awesome power of tidal waves.
Re: iiiinteresting...greeneyedbaby16January 10 2005, 16:24:42 UTC
yea, im not saying the end is coming... but i jsut thought it was eiry(sp?). I also wanted to get people TALKING about their faith, etc... which happened on a few posts. so, mission accomplished. :)
Emily did not watch the discovery channel too closely, either that or they presented wrong information. Tsunamis have been in existance for an extremely long time, certainly before 1946.
"13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." <--- I am curious as to how you interpret that statement. Does that mean that only Christians will be saved, or believers of Christ? It is this very point that has always repelled me from Christianity, seeing as how the so-called "forgiving God" would condemn so many good people. Plenty of people who have been raised to believe in different religions lead equally, if not even more, rightous lives yet they will be punished? I am curious about your thoughts on that, I'm not trying to sound accusing just inquisitive.
i don't believe that you have to be a "christian" i would like to believe that a simple belief in god would do. I am a church attendent who no longer attends do to a disgust concerning organized religion. However, i do believe in the end it would be god's judgement, i do not believe he would condemn the tribes running around in the amazon, with a lack of knowledge in much more then poison plants and edible plants. I do believe in the bible is says, i may be wrong thought, that every human is born with the knowledge of their creator, and in the end some people have interpreted their creator differently doesn't make it wrong, it simply means that their relationship with their "god" maybe be different from someone elses. If you do believe in god then i would imagine that you may agree with the fact that he is not human and his way of thinking therefore cannot be human-like meaning in the end it is his decision and i would highly doubt he would be unjust.
ok... there is more... i liedwoopski_woopJanuary 10 2005, 20:20:24 UTC
here is something from the site i just listed...
Even the most seasoned newsmen who have "seen it all" are in awe of the world developments in recent years. All of them realize that something unique in the history of the world is happening today. And what's most stunning about it all is the breath-taking rapidity of these recent developments.
Consider the following:
The crumbling of the Eastern Bloc of Europe and the Communist Empire. The unprecedented vote by the Soviet communist party to relinquish its absolute hold on power for the first time since it seized power 70 years ago. The opening of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of a divided Germany. Events transpiring in the Middle East. The failing ecosystem of Earth. Changing weather patterns worldwide. The breathtaking pace of technological advancements. The collapse of ethical and moral values. The weakening influence of our churches and their leaders.
Nothing on that list really convinces me of anything. Especially not that we're living in the last days.
"Most seasoned newsmen, who have seen it all," eh? So they were there to witness the other 10,000 years of human history? Mmmkay.
Blah...not to mention "ethical and moral values" are EXTREMELY relative and subjective, and I personally believe that the world, on the whole, as globalization continues, is becoming more compassionate and sympathetic towards the suffering of our fellow brothers and sisters. And I don't see what technological advancements (particularly in the realm of medicine) have to do with the end of the world.
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Although, there have always been earthquakes and famine and large natural disasters. They've shaped the face of our Earth.
Neither is war or famine new, or increasing at any dramatic rate. If there was any factor contributing to the death tolls or the number or people affected it would be our increasing world population and the population density of third world countries- the places most hard-hit by natural disasters and disease. Naturally, there will be more dead if countries aren't prepared to deal with the casualties.
Japan has long dealt with tidal waves and tsunamis, and respect for them is part of their culture. There's a lot of art and writings that tell of the awesome power of tidal waves.
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"13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." <--- I am curious as to how you interpret that statement. Does that mean that only Christians will be saved, or believers of Christ? It is this very point that has always repelled me from Christianity, seeing as how the so-called "forgiving God" would condemn so many good people. Plenty of people who have been raised to believe in different religions lead equally, if not even more, rightous lives yet they will be punished? I am curious about your thoughts on that, I'm not trying to sound accusing just inquisitive.
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Even the most seasoned newsmen who have "seen it all" are in awe of the world developments in recent years. All of them realize that something unique in the history of the world is happening today. And what's most stunning about it all is the breath-taking rapidity of these recent developments.
Consider the following:
The crumbling of the Eastern Bloc of Europe and the Communist Empire.
The unprecedented vote by the Soviet communist party to relinquish its absolute hold on power for the first time since it seized power 70 years ago.
The opening of the Berlin Wall and the reunification of a divided Germany.
Events transpiring in the Middle East.
The failing ecosystem of Earth.
Changing weather patterns worldwide.
The breathtaking pace of technological advancements.
The collapse of ethical and moral values.
The weakening influence of our churches and their leaders.
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i totally saw that discovery channel show too about the valnco like, crumbling. freaked the hell out of me....
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"Most seasoned newsmen, who have seen it all," eh? So they were there to witness the other 10,000 years of human history? Mmmkay.
Blah...not to mention "ethical and moral values" are EXTREMELY relative and subjective, and I personally believe that the world, on the whole, as globalization continues, is becoming more compassionate and sympathetic towards the suffering of our fellow brothers and sisters. And I don't see what technological advancements (particularly in the realm of medicine) have to do with the end of the world.
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