[ooc] fanon v. canon GO!

[gant_touch_this]

So, this is something that's been on my mind: I've heard multiple people at various times complain about fanon!Gant, but as someone who's never been heavily involved in PW fandom, I... don't really know what that means. So! In the interest of self-edification (and of writing a better, stronger, fancier Gant) I'd like to know, what does fanon!Gant

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[cfud_anon]

I am very confused as to why you are playing Gant as a rapist or a sexual predator. When he approaches people, he comes off as a sexual predator. That is not the personality that he appears to have within the game itself. Though you may not be playing to the typical fanon, this seems unlike the character in the game itself. Gant does have only one case to pull from, but your additional head canon appears to be off.

In the game itself, Gant has numerous opportunities to be a sexual creature, but there are no points in which this actually happens. I am confused as to why you have taken this character and highly sexualized him to the point of predator status.

If you want an example of where I am pulling from, you can look here or at any of your threads with Dean. Honestly, I am uncomfortable by the way you're playing him and would suggest that you turn down the sex a lot. You are doing it in every single thread, too. I understand enjoying AUs, but turning this character into an emotionally manipulative rapist seems off. Are you

[gant_touch_this]

Thank you for your input. I definitely understand where you're coming from. It has not been my intention to play Gant as a rapist or a sexual predator; rather, it's been my intention to play him as a predator, period. I read Gant as the kind of man who wants to control and dominate as much as possible; he is the ultimate alpha dog, There is plenty of canon basis for that much, at least. Where headcanon comes into it for me is that I can see him viewing sex as simply another way to control people. When he has shown sexual interest in someone in Camp, it's always been an outgrowth of a desire to manipulate and control (which is how it started with Dean; they met in the mistletoe post and ended up making out, and Gant was intrigued by how fervently Dean denied how much he enjoyed it; this has since grown into him trying to get Dean to open up about his feelings and expose himself emotionally; because getting someone so closed off to do so would give him a great feeling of power and control. Additionally, their relationship has

[cfud_anon]

I'm fine with it being open if you are.

I'm a little confused. In canon, Gant is a manipulative and controlling individual. The character in canon is someone who can actually catch you by surprise as being the so-called "bad guy" in his case, which is a remarkable standing in a Phoenix Wright game. Most Phoenix Wright characters are subtle like bricks, whereas Gant doesn't come off as the type of individual who would immediately strike you as manipulative.

In camp, in numerous threads, I find it hard to believe that Gant is subtle. He comes on incredibly strong. I would recommend that you try to reel him in when you do things, as it seems like everything he does is rather heavy-handed. It may also lead to someone misreading his threads with Dean. Quite honestly, right now, your Gant is hardly recognizable to the one in canon.

The issue I see with his sexuality is that you take a character who does things without sexuality being a tool in canon and you make it his only tool in camp. When I read Gant's threads, I see someone

[gant_touch_this]

I will definitely work on reeling him in. I'm not a very subtle person myself, so if he comes off as heavy-handed, that's probably less my intentionally playing him that way and more my tendency to be blunt. ^^; But in playing canon, I notice that much of Gant's authority comes not just from subtle behind-the-scenes manipulation, but in also being too intimidating, dominating, and imposing for anyone to effectively stop him. He just crashes through situations like a tidal wave and doesn't stick around long enough for anyone to call him on it. His subtlety only extends so far.

I would like to respond directly to this statement: Gant may be a virile 60-something man who has a healthy sex life in canon, but there's no evidence to this. He's surrounded by people he could have used in this way, but he never flirts or comes off this way at any point, by mentioning that in canon, we always see him a) through Phoenix's eyes, and b) always in a professional context, either at the police headquarters or in court. Gant has no reason to

[cfud_anon]

However, while he may be subtle and quick enough, I think it would be something you could pull off differently in camp. He could get things to hold over people's heads and black mail them, ensuring that things go in his favor. By having that blackmail, he would give himself control over numerous individuals. The fact that he doesn't do this in any way but sexually is confusing. As a result, you do make him highly OOC by preferring to stick with sexual intentions. The game may be through Phoenix's eyes. However, it's not like Phoenix Wright (as a series) refuses to touch on sexual issues. It seems unlikely that it wouldn't come up. If he's so willing to pursue someone sexually as you do with him in camp, why didn't it come up with Lana-or even Phoenix himself? Gant, as you're explaining him, appears to be the type to approach these individuals in this way. Instead, he doesn't, and things go rather differently

[gant_touch_this]

There's not much that blackmailing anyone in camp would really accomplish, though. In canon, most of his actions all spring from the desire to hide his secret and maintain his position. Here, he really doesn't have anything to hide and he has no position to preserve. And he's not really interested in ruling over camp, because as it is, he's already enjoying himself. He's still the kind of person who wants to possess those things (and those people) that interest him, but there's nothing to cover up and no nosy lawyers to throw off the scent. (I would also point out that just because it's never revealed that he had a sexual relationship with Lana doesn't mean he wasn't. I mean, heck, Ema talks about how her sister hasn't been the same since the Incident; if you wanted to read that as a reaction to sexual trauma, you probably could. I'm not saying that I necessarily interpret it that way, but I think it's certainly a valid reading). I don't really follow your logic when you say that because Gant doesn't hit on Phoenix, it's thus