The Golden Glider quote list

Dec 19, 2008 09:15

So this project started when I was grumbling to runenklinge about Geoff Johns' apparent subtle retconning of Lisa's reason for becoming the Golden Glider (with the new focus on her brother, not her dead boyfriend). I decided to list all the old quotes relating to her revenge on Barry Allen...and then somehow the project turned into typing up all the dialogue ( Read more... )

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runenklinge December 19 2008, 15:26:39 UTC
wow. wow. whoa-wow.

you were absolutely right (as usual)
It´s "revenge for Roscoe" here, "I´ll avenge Roscoe" there...

This is the Golden Glider speaking via a remote hook-up between my flying top and Iris Allen’s vocal cords
crack

After raiding my brother’s hideout for these special ice-air skates
makes you wonder why exactly Cold made these...maybe he thought ice-air hockey could become popular? Because he wanted to try them himself seems more likely, but...Currently I´m imagining Len in Lisa´s skates...

I was 99% sure of my suspicions! But Iris Allen’s references to her husband’s super-speed --- plus the spectacular vibrating car stunt that saved them from the trees I felled --- eliminates that doubtful 10%
lisa does math with 109% accuracy^^

my skates keep me in flight by generating gravity-resistant ice
crack

You not only look like a shrink, Dr Soames --- you smell like one!
....what?

Neither did the Trickster or Pied Piper or any other costumed male crook!
Piper´s trip to crazy-land followed after

Now that my specially ( ... )

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liabrown December 19 2008, 15:44:22 UTC
you were absolutely right (as usual)
It´s "revenge for Roscoe" here, "I´ll avenge Roscoe" there...

She was pretty obsessed. Which is why I'm so irritated by what Johns seems to be doing; that is a LOT of dialogue/motivation to retcon.

This is the Golden Glider speaking via a remote hook-up between my flying top and Iris Allen’s vocal cords
crack

That and Lisa's supposed telepathy later on...

After raiding my brother’s hideout for these special ice-air skates
makes you wonder why exactly Cold made these...maybe he thought ice-air hockey could become popular? Because he wanted to try them himself seems more likely, but...Currently I´m imagining Len in Lisa´s skates...

I can only assume he made them for her, maybe as a toy, since they fit her and not him. But maybe he made some for himself too.

I was 99% sure of my suspicions! But Iris Allen’s references to her husband’s super-speed --- plus the spectacular vibrating car stunt that saved them from the trees I felled --- eliminates that doubtful 10 ( ... )

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runenklinge December 19 2008, 20:57:08 UTC
My personal guess: Johns read the old issues maybe once and not very carefully.

I can only assume he made them for her, maybe as a toy, since they fit her and not him. But maybe he made some for himself too.
I imagine Len skating through the air glider-style....with sparkles and diamonds^^

Although you'd think at least some Rogues *coughRoscoecough* would have gotten one too...
that depends....was he in prison at one occassion after he got his new set of powers?
I guess the others didn´t get special treatment because they were either not long enough in jail (As a renowned psychiatrist I could start a therapy with Pied Piper - damn, he broke out again. So much for that idea.)
And the other Rogues were mainly criminals whose favorite pasttime was to rob banks etc...she was dead set on torturing a man out of personal reasons. Maybe that´s the difference in the writers´eyes....

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liabrown December 20 2008, 03:48:08 UTC
My personal guess: Johns read the old issues maybe once and not very carefully.

I think he owns all the issues...that's what I recall him saying. He probably knows exactly what he's doing, he just likes this version better. It's not like he isn't willing to retcon the hell out of a lot of other things.

I imagine Len skating through the air glider-style....with sparkles and diamonds^^

He's so PRETTY!

that depends....was he in prison at one occassion after he got his new set of powers?

No (he died pretty soon after), but demanding on TV to be made ruler of the world or he'll blow up half of it with a giant atomic grenade is kind of an obvious warning sign :> That probably calls for a psych evaluation right there. Also, the obsession with tops doesn't help.

I guess the others didn´t get special treatment because they were either not long enough in jail (As a renowned psychiatrist I could start a therapy with Pied Piper - damn, he broke out again. So much for that idea ( ... )

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runenklinge December 20 2008, 13:15:15 UTC
he just likes this version better
superpower of comic writers = retcon and punching the universe like Superboy

....no. Johns is Superboy Prime!

Also, the obsession with tops doesn't help.
*cough Spaceboomerang cough*

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liabrown December 20 2008, 15:52:55 UTC
....no. Johns is Superboy Prime!

He has written him a fair amount, hasn't he?

*cough Spaceboomerang cough*

I wonder who built that thing. Frankly, I don't think Digger is smart enough to build a spaceship. Maybe he paid Roscoe to build it for him, since it debuted very shortly after Roscoe's death (and for Roscoe to have launched his own satellite, he would have had to send it into space with a craft somehow).

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runenklinge December 20 2008, 18:56:42 UTC
Frankly, I don't think Digger is smart enough to build a spaceship
I think it´s Silver Age villain style. I don´t want to say that our beloved Rogues are dumb, but let´s be honest, they´re no Einsteins.

Cold tampers with a cyclotron and gets a cold gun out of it which he can repair and rebuild...and modify, and generate gravity-defying ice, ice skates that produce gravity-defying ice....
Lisa and her jewel weapons, hypnotic ice and telepathy...
OK, I fully trust Mick with his flamethrowers and protective suits.
I trust Mark with using a weather wand.
I don´t know about Sam and the mirrors....I doubt Evan with the mirrors....

I think in the Silver Age (apart from the comic science) they wanted the heroes to face new challenges and difficulties, so they need super-intelligent enemies with new inventions, gadgets and threatening...stuff.

Maybe he paid Roscoe to build it for himI highly suspect that Boomer maybe stole it when Roscoe died. Imagine Rosoce boasting about building a spaceship for his top-satellite, and Digger overhearing ( ... )

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liabrown December 20 2008, 20:11:55 UTC
I think it´s Silver Age villain style. I don´t want to say that our beloved Rogues are dumb, but let´s be honest, they´re no Einsteins.

Holy smokes! Roscoe would be furious if you suggested he wasn't a genius! O_o

*backs away slowly, before the blood starts flying*

Cold tampers with a cyclotron and gets a cold gun out of it which he can repair and rebuild...and modify, and generate gravity-defying ice, ice skates that produce gravity-defying ice....

Well, the cold gun was an accident. He pulled the wrong levers and didn't get the radiation gun he was aiming for. But over time he learned to modify it and rebuild other copies.

Lisa and her jewel weapons, hypnotic ice and telepathy...

Lisa's pretty clever, but she seems to have developed all her tech after studying Roscoe's and Len's.

OK, I fully trust Mick with his flamethrowers and protective suits.

Which is odd, because Mick used to be the one genuinely dumb Rogue (back in the Silver and Bronze Age). He's been made smarter since.

I trust Mark with using a weather wand. ( ... )

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