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fenixsuzaku

for what is hate?

Jan 26, 2006 17:05

FOR THOSE WHO SAY THEY 'HATE' KIRITO (as a person) JUST BECAUSE OF HIS SOLO CAREER
this rant is so getting it's own postwe start off with rhetorical questions ( Read more... )

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loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 00:54:02 UTC

Well... Those aren't any of the reasons why I don't like Kirito's solo career. <3

1st) Most of the songs suck (take "cannabis" as an example. It's horrible) ~ Not saying all of them do. "Plot" and "The sun" look a lot like PIERROT works. I don't deny their are 'not bad'.
But still, exactly for the reason that he wanted to do a different kind of work, is that it is not as good as PIERROT. At least, not enough to please my ears.

2nd) I don't like 'sold out' artists. By that I mean... Artists that _really_ do anything to sell themselves. Artists that does lots of different types of the same single just because they know there will be fanatic fans that will buy it. It's exploring people who love them. "selling themselves" is quite commom at such a world as the music industry. Most bands do it. PIERROT do it a bit. But not that much. Having a website where you have t pay to see stuff was reason enought to consider Kirito's solo career as "sold out" <3 ( ... )

fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 01:27:17 UTC

1. I've said it before, I respect everyone's tastes in music, it's perfectly alright to dislike the music from his solo career

2. just as with FOLLOWERS-only pages on the PIERROT website (which does need paid entrance), Kirito's site is the same, except it seems Kirito's site has less information for the general audience. that's just because Kirito's solo career has hardly started and there's not much info to begin with. I mean, you see his discography, biography, news, online shop, all free just like on the PIERROT site. but PIERROT's site has no 'diary', thus it seems like everything is 'free'.
I agree that the type-a type-b thing is very inconsiderate of the poorer fans, but I don't think it was ever considered during PIERROT's earlier releases. I mean, only recently (after MYCLOUD) has companies started selling the CDs in different types ne? it's like a new 'trend' that the companies choose to use to market their products. if Kirito protests, he will probably dropped from the label (as he's not one of those 'most coveted' artists ( ... )

loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 01:59:12 UTC

1) Yup. True o.o

2) Like I've said at another of your posts at LJ... I don't exactly blame Kirito. But all the circunstamces together. The company/label...
And I also don't like when PIERROT does that ((But as I said, it kinda happens to most artists ~ With some more than with others))
Kirito is also being cover of most magazines out there. Too many! It's not normal. It's too much "selling by image". I didn't comment that before because it's also usual with major musicians. But again, with some more than with others.
With Miyavi and Gackr, for example, witch I consider "sold out" artist... It happens a lot. They are in almost all magazines. Image... Image... No music.

3) I don't care If it's an act of if it's not. He created it. And I love that character. No matter it's real Kirito or not. He can't just simply kill that character when there are tons of people that love it.If, from the start, he wantes to smile and be himself.... Why did he create such a character ( ... )

loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 02:06:30 UTC

PLEASE do NOT misunderstand my last sentence !!!!!
I was IRONIC!!!! ~ I am NOT saying, in any ciscunstances, that I think Kirito does not consider PIERROT.
I KNOW HE DOES!
That's exactly why I was sarcastic/ironic.

PIERROT means a lot to him... As he have said tons of times. So... It is only natural to me to think PIERROT, since the indies times, was his dream. Isn't it?

When you say the solo career is his dream. It looks like PIERROT was never that loved by Kirito. It seems he was only waiting the right time to do a solo career.
But he loves PIERROT... we know. That's why I don't think the solo career is a "dream". I don't like to see treat it as if it was.

loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 02:08:14 UTC

*I don't like to see people treating it as if it was.

fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 02:35:46 UTC

2. well, if you look, he's only been on the covers of 'rock' magazines. FOOL'S MATE and ultra veat both are magazines in which PIERROT appears very often (so it's natural that he appears on them too). in order for magazines to sell, they need to cover the most popular artists. plus, Kirito doesn't just do photoshoots. more often than not, he writes his own articles in the magazines (shiko kairo and THE PAST OF CONFUSION are both compilations of his articles on various things like advice columns and his own editorials ( ... )

loucanet_ray January 27 2006, 02:52:00 UTC

Mind If I answer this tomorrow? XD

*reaaally busy*

By the way ~ I never see you online at msn o.o

fenixsuzaku January 27 2006, 02:52:59 UTC

sure~
erm...MSN hates me XD;
I'll try and get on sometime...maybe on the weekend? ^^U

juusuikan January 27 2006, 23:34:55 UTC

Actually I really really really don't wanna barge in to your guys conversation but fenixsuzaku motivated me to unscratch the thoughts what I wanted to say so I'm gonna try. but you know what happens when you scratch something once and then try to understand it

But I think my main point was the 3rd statement.
It's always good to discuss about other persons life. But you should also consider leaving a hint that you care whether the person had a real reason to 'act' dictator way and why 'stopped' doing it. It's deeper topic and you should take under-advisement about it. Perhaps you'll understand what I'm trying to say.
^____^
Ok.
/end of this stupid spampost.
I lost my energy

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