One more... ^^;;;

[excused_early]

I'm not sure if my earlier daydreaming illustration was able to express my concern over the integration very well since I got way too carried away with being YOU-kun. XD;;;
So, I'm just going to leave a link to a great post written about this very issue. Please read it only if you're interested.  =3
http://jamiechaos.net/weblog/292/ written by

Comments

[omg_its_gackt]

I, personally, don't have a problem with it. I understand people's concern about people posting their comments in your journal to their applications with links to privacy.

What I don't get is people complaining about the twitter/facebook option in their own post. They're complaining about how they can 'accidently' send a post they write to these other sites, but they can't unless the user themselves activates & puts in the links into the settings THEMSELVES, otherwise, the option is blocked. Wtf is up with bitching about that?

Personally, I trust my friends to not put comments they make on my really personal posts on twitter or facebook. If it's about something silly or fandom, I could really care less. Besides, if people go to the link, they still can't read the whole thing if it's locked.

[excused_early]

"Wtf is up with bitching about that?"

XD
I know~~~~. I don't get it, either~~~~!!! LOLOL

"Personally, I trust my friends to not put comments they make on my really personal posts on twitter or facebook."

Right. It really comes down to the issue of trust.
But people shouldn't have to worry 'more' about their privacy possibly leaking, you know? And they could even be quoted totally out of context.

What if someone ranted about their boss in an f-locked post, and one of the (so-called) friends decided to x-post their comment, saying "Yep, Jeniffer, your boss totally sucks~~~! I can understand why you spat in his coffee while he wasn't looking!", to FB, where their mutual friends and acquaintances can read it.
It doesn't matter if it was done innocently or maliciously. If this leaked info ends up in the hands of the OP's boss, her career could be in serious danger. You know what I mean?
And how can anybody tell whom to really, really trust when it comes down to it? =/

[omg_its_gackt]

Right. It really comes down to the issue of trust.
But people shouldn't have to worry 'more' about their privacy possibly leaking, you know? And they could even be quoted totally out of context.

I totally agree with that. I do think lj messed up when it came to the comment option thingy. When it comes to things that are private locked, I don't think it should be allowed. A post that's unlocked, that's different.

I guess the way I see it is I put my trust into my friends on lj. Reading my fo post, they agree not to c+p or post anything within my journal outside it. If it comes to that happening, well maybe they're not the friend I thought they were, & removing this is a click away. Maybe I'm taking it too lightly, but that's my own opinion on the matter lol. I guess I would have to have it happen to me to think it over, but right now, I'm just like whatever. & I know I definitely won't be leaving lj like others are lol.

[excused_early]

Yeah, I mean, if I were to just worry about my own privacy in LJ, I'd probably just brush it off, thinking "Well, I don't write anything I wouldn't want the world to know". So, I wasn't really all that worried about it at the beginning, either.

But I just started thinking about all these possibilities that 'could' lead to major problems as a result of this new feature, and since it really doesn't make much sense to me to allow the members to x-post their 'comments' left in 'others'' journals (I mean, how useful could that be?! @_@), I think the cons outweigh the pros by far and far. =/

I don't think I'll leave LJ, either, though. I mean, it's our cyber-home. ;__;
*sigh*

[sleepydragon_26]

I guess I'm not getting the concern because I very purposefully keep (most of) my my LJ/twitter friends separate from my facebook friends. Plus, whenever I talk about something personal on LJ, I'm very careful to keep most everything vague.

[excused_early]

Right. I keep LJ very separate from FB/twitter, too.
And since I'm never going to link my LJ account to FB/twitter ever, I'm not worried about the feature for my own sake, either.

I just really don't like the repercussions this could have on many users who don't keep these various accounts very independent of each other (with mutual friends everywhere).
I mean, I worry about naive and innocent rants posted by a school girl/boy being quoted and taken out of context, ruining their school life. =/

Or, what if somebody left a comment saying "Oh, so you're alone in your house all this weekend? Wow, I'm jealous" and innocently x-posted it on FB, where anybody could read it as well as see who the OP was. Isn't that potentially very dangerous?

Do I worry too much? Do I? Tell me, Amber, tell me~~!! XD

But really, I'm also just appalled by the simple fact that LJ's even doing this.

[mmisskriss]

i agree, on a non-personal based view, it isn't the best idea for ppl as a whole. i mean, communities are for mass posts, and there's a privacy option for a reason. if there's any loop wholes to take that option away, there's no real point in having one to begin with. do i make sense?
a lot of ppl don't take it personally ; i too don't make many posts friends only and what not, but it's the fact of the matter.
i mean i know [i read you're other post getting further into length on this issue] once you post it, that' sit, but it's just a silly mix up it sounds like, and i think it would be a lot more... hm, moral? ethical? idk, just better and sound safer for our reassurance to have those comments as safe as our posts.

[excused_early]

"there's a privacy option for a reason. if there's any loop wholes to take that option away, there's no real point in having one to begin with."

EXACTLY!

"just better and sound safer for our reassurance to have those comments as safe as our posts."

I agree.
I can put up with the other new features, but this one really needs to be removed. Or so many users will leave LJ, and the large profit they must've made from the integration won't even be able to compensate for the loss. =/

[karadin]

mmisskriss has a really valid point about communties, I belong to a few that have thousands of members, and if one comment gets inadvertantly posted public, more than one comment can go public as well!

Many coms meet lj regulations when they post over-18 content, and they check the ages of their membership, but when comments go out (many that include links and downloads) there goes the very notion of a com being secure!

[mmisskriss]

Hai, see I am worried for LJ - I luv it; it's all my G needs and so many Dears I know have a lot of fun posting and updating and sharing reports on gigs and stuff. I'd hate to see that go over one silly mistake.

[camui_love]

*pouts* I'm a little dissapointed to see the integration. I mean... I like my sites separate you know @___

[excused_early]

Exactly!

"I think if they got rid of the cross-posting comment feature (which seems like quite a useless thing in the first place..), people would be much much happier and feel more at ease with the whole situation..."

They just need to give us the option to disable it!! =/

Ah, yeah, the job situation. XD
I mean, it could happen, right?
Srsly, how much do we really know our friends? And what if one of your f-list friends decides that they don't like you anymore and decides to be bad? =/

Yeah, I'm not personally worried about this, either.
I just really hate the principle of it. =____=

<3

[mmisskriss]

Oh see I agree with Jo - I trust my friends and I only know a few rl ppl here. I also don't do a lot of name posts when it comes to personal life and since I am an open person I'm not too worries either.
I just think as a whole - the site should respect the general publics worry on tje issue

[excused_early]

" I just think as a whole - the site should respect the general publics worry on tje issue"

MTE =3

[w_a_prince]

I do think that this will pass, didn't something happen with facebook a good while ago that started a riot and then calmed down eventually?

Either way people really do need to calm down. ~_~;; It's their friends list, if they don't trust those they have added then they shouldn't be on it. Because it's just as easy to copy-paste a locked entry as to intentionally click that button. So until it does get worked out, everyone needs to take a deep breath, and even if it -doesn't- get worked out, the same method would do several people a lot of good. ^-^

[karadin]

Sadly, its not just about your friends list, the pingback feature when enabled allows users to view your locked posts, and now facebook and twitter users are considered registered users, even if they don't have accounts at lj, so if you are trying to avoid a family member or co-worker from facebook, look out.

If you belong to a community your security is also threatened, because if one person accidently reposts a comment from a locked post, more than one comment can be read.

when you crosspost from livejournal to facebook, facebook shows your real name above your livejournal account, so goodbye anonymity - if you wanted that!

[sammet]

Thank you for bringing my attention to that Facebook/Twitter users being "registered". I will have to cut about half of my Facebook friends now. .___.'

I also noticed you have posted quite a lot of material about this in your own blog, so I am heading over to read them carefully in a little while. Thank you for the research!

[karadin]

no problem, I think users should know about the changes, it's just a shame that lj isn't making this clear on their own!