Comments | darrelx: USE YOUR ASH TRAY, ASH-HOLE!!!

darrelx

USE YOUR ASH TRAY, ASH-HOLE!!!

Aug 24, 2010 13:29

For the record, it's a crime in the State of California (23111 V.C.) to hold a burning ember out your window at ANY time... you can be fined up to $1,000.

If you actually drop your cigarette (lit or unlit), there can be ANOTHER fine of up to $1000 for littering (23112 V.C.).

If you do this during a Red-Flag warning (low humidity and/or high wind ( Read more... )

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kevin_standlee August 24 2010, 23:27:29 UTC

I'm with you completely on this. I'm a child of the US Forest Service, and when I was growing up, my father was away for a month or more at a time fighting fires, a fair number of which were ascribed to the idiocy you describe.

darrelx August 25 2010, 16:12:31 UTC

Please post a link to the above and/or feel free to paraphrase most or all of it. You have more readers than I do. ;)

kevin_standlee August 25 2010, 16:42:53 UTC

Done.

mauser August 25 2010, 01:59:12 UTC

I believe it's $1000 in Washington for throwing a lit cigarette out the window. Haven't heard of it being enforced. They're more aggressive on the new "No holding a Cell phone to your head" law. That one's kind of annoying because it takes me TWO hands and considerable fumbling to plug the damned headset in.

My phone does not do bluetooth. And there are two strong stations on BOTH of the frequencies the Jupiter Jack uses.

darrelx August 25 2010, 16:10:22 UTC

Since I've started riding BabyDragon to work (24 miles each way), it's staggering how many people I see hanging their butts out the window.

If the CHP M/C officers (who also lane-split through traffic, since it's legal in California to do so) started writing more tickets for this year-round instead of just focusing on it during fire-season and only in the inland (higher fire risk) areas, the state might get over its budgetary problems.

mauser August 25 2010, 17:37:00 UTC

Traffic fines (Or frankly, any law enforcement) should never be used purely as a form of arbitrary revenue enhancement. The purpose of law enforcement is to punish wrongdoers, not to just collect money. Otherwise it turns the Highway Patrol into highwaymen.

darrelx August 25 2010, 23:47:12 UTC

Point taken... but in this case there are wrong-doers who are not being punished, and my comment was intended to point out just one additional side-benefit of enacting enforcement.

I agree that this side-benefit (increased revenue to the state) should *not* be used as the reason to increase enforcement.

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