Only a Borgia can love a Borgia - so it seems I am a Borgia

Jul 03, 2013 01:56

I am well aware that I have not one, but two unanswered posts. I truly will get to them. But guys. Guys.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE BORGIAS PLEASE? BECAUSE JFC THIS SHOW.


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rosaxx50 July 3 2013, 11:38:36 UTC
Um. Hello. I got here from your comment at Alex's recent post (b/c I'm always interested in people who talk about The Borgias) and I must say your opinions = A+, would repeat.

The cast is utterly superb, from Sancia all the way up to Holliday/Francois/Irons. Each just utterly SOLD their role, totes amazing.

I am flailing at all you say about Lucrezia --

She wasn't a pure soul who got corrupted by a perfidious world. Every scheming, morally ambiguous, vengeful part of Lucrezia in later seasons was there from the beginning, dormant but very present. Likewise, her earnest nature, her adolescent desires and hopes all remained with her even as she grew into her own power. It was never a case of changing values. It was merely a refocusing of the veritable electron cloud that was Lucrezia Borgia's driving passions.

B/C yes, always, once she was out of the sheltered innocence where she didn't need to use those skills, she learnt fast how to utilise them. And she learnt fast who to learn from (i.e. everyone.)

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dante_kent July 6 2013, 09:08:38 UTC
Well hello and welcome! Alex has mentioned you to me before as a fellow Borgia appreciator, so I am pleased you found me. Not that I'm subtle. Now that I'm finally caught up, I'm kind of just screaming my love from the rooftops (JESUS LOVES ME I LOVE THIS SHOW).

The cast really is phenomenal. This is one of those shows that makes me feel like it's a shame that minor characters don't get more attention. All the cardinals were great, all these random characters who pop up for five minutes. Dude, Derek Jacobi was on this show. THIS IS A SHOW OF AWESOME BROS DON'T EVER DOUBT IT.

Ughhh, Lucrezia. What a glorious arc from start to finish. I ALREADY MISS HER SO MUCH.

the outside world was more a catalyst for removing his inhibitions than the #1 driving force.

Yes, thissss. SUCH a good way of saying it. And that's the allure of the Borgias. It wasn't just the world they were in that made them who they were. There's an inner fierceness that is inherent - they're all powerful in their own ways because they are Borgias.

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rosaxx50 July 6 2013, 22:22:36 UTC
Shouting from the rooftops is the correct impulse to be honest.

One of the show's strengths was giving every single character/faction a voice and motivation that made them matter in their own right.

Dude, I have such a weird random love for Ascanio Sforza. I don't even know.

YOUR LOVE IS NOT RANDOM, he might actually be my favourite male character on the show. For real.

Though the cracks in the universe sucking him in certainly makes more sense, since no one seems to remember he EVER existed

Right after I saw this comment, I actually also found a Vanozza POV vid where she ruminates on how Rodrigo seems to have forgotten he existed, and that it was probably for the best.

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dante_kent July 7 2013, 03:08:05 UTC
One of the show's strengths was giving every single character/faction a voice and motivation that made them matter in their own right.

Such word. Weirdly enough, one of my favourite scenes from this season (other than every Cesare/Lucrezia scene ever, obvs) is that one when that cardinal (ughhh can't remember his name SOMETHING ITALIAN?) is chained up in the Castel Sant Angelo and learning to lie. Actually, there are two of them. I love them both.

he might actually be my favourite male character on the show. For real.

Waaaaoooooowwww, really? I love Ascanio like whoa, but no one will ever beat Cesare in my heart (because I am a pathetic cliche, basically). Tell me of your love!

I actually also found a Vanozza POV vid where she ruminates on how Rodrigo seems to have forgotten he existed, and that it was probably for the best.

Lol, how true. It probs is for the best. He's just chilling with his hot wife, living the life. Good on you, Gioffre.

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rosaxx50 July 7 2013, 21:26:10 UTC
Waaaaoooooowwww, really? I love Ascanio like whoa, but no one will ever beat Cesare in my heart (because I am a pathetic cliche, basically). Tell me of your love!

Hahaha. When I gather my thoughts into some sort of order that isn't just about how sassy he is.

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dante_kent July 7 2013, 23:13:35 UTC

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