Only a Borgia can love a Borgia - so it seems I am a Borgia
I am well aware that I have not one, but two unanswered posts. I truly will get to them. But guys. Guys.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE BORGIAS PLEASE? BECAUSE JFC THIS SHOW.
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CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE BORGIAS PLEASE? BECAUSE JFC THIS SHOW.
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The cast is utterly superb, from Sancia all the way up to Holliday/Francois/Irons. Each just utterly SOLD their role, totes amazing.
I am flailing at all you say about Lucrezia --
She wasn't a pure soul who got corrupted by a perfidious world. Every scheming, morally ambiguous, vengeful part of Lucrezia in later seasons was there from the beginning, dormant but very present. Likewise, her earnest nature, her adolescent desires and hopes all remained with her even as she grew into her own power. It was never a case of changing values. It was merely a refocusing of the veritable electron cloud that was Lucrezia Borgia's driving passions.
B/C yes, always, once she was out of the sheltered innocence where she didn't need to use those skills, she learnt fast how to utilise them. And she learnt fast who to learn from (i.e. everyone.)
He's crazycakes and eerily calm all at the same time. And for someone like me, who spends way too much time establishing amateur psychological profiles of her favourite TV characters, he's legit exhausting, because he's ALWAYS going through some sort of existential crisis. This guy ranges through emotions and ambitions and vendettas so rapidly I wonder that he still finds time to buy hair product
Ugh and this, crazy + calm = Cesare ALL THE TIME.
And ITA about how much Cesare's transformation was driven by his inner ambitions -- the outside world was more a catalyst for removing his inhibitions than the #1 driving force.
And everything you say about C/L, they were so flawless, beautiful parallel story arcs. And I can honestly say I have never seen two characters with as much chemistry as they have.
The Sforzas were always excellent of course.
RE: Gioffre, who even knows, I was wondering about this back in s2. Though there were some hilarious options at the Borgias s3 in review poll at cesare_lucrezia.
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The cast really is phenomenal. This is one of those shows that makes me feel like it's a shame that minor characters don't get more attention. All the cardinals were great, all these random characters who pop up for five minutes. Dude, Derek Jacobi was on this show. THIS IS A SHOW OF AWESOME BROS DON'T EVER DOUBT IT.
Ughhh, Lucrezia. What a glorious arc from start to finish. I ALREADY MISS HER SO MUCH.
the outside world was more a catalyst for removing his inhibitions than the #1 driving force.
Yes, thissss. SUCH a good way of saying it. And that's the allure of the Borgias. It wasn't just the world they were in that made them who they were. There's an inner fierceness that is inherent - they're all powerful in their own ways because they are Borgias.
And I can honestly say I have never seen two characters with as much chemistry as they have.
Just so. How could there ever be two people with MORE chemistry? Such a thing is not possible. Ridiculous, those two. IT BOGGLES THE MIND.
Dude, I have such a weird random love for Ascanio Sforza. I don't even know.
LOL-ING FOREVER @ THE GIOFFRE POLL. Dying at Gioffre learning to be a greenseer. Though the cracks in the universe sucking him in certainly makes more sense, since no one seems to remember he EVER existed. Just another great mystery of the universe.
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One of the show's strengths was giving every single character/faction a voice and motivation that made them matter in their own right.
Dude, I have such a weird random love for Ascanio Sforza. I don't even know.
YOUR LOVE IS NOT RANDOM, he might actually be my favourite male character on the show. For real.
Though the cracks in the universe sucking him in certainly makes more sense, since no one seems to remember he EVER existed
Right after I saw this comment, I actually also found a Vanozza POV vid where she ruminates on how Rodrigo seems to have forgotten he existed, and that it was probably for the best.
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Such word. Weirdly enough, one of my favourite scenes from this season (other than every Cesare/Lucrezia scene ever, obvs) is that one when that cardinal (ughhh can't remember his name SOMETHING ITALIAN?) is chained up in the Castel Sant Angelo and learning to lie. Actually, there are two of them. I love them both.
he might actually be my favourite male character on the show. For real.
Waaaaoooooowwww, really? I love Ascanio like whoa, but no one will ever beat Cesare in my heart (because I am a pathetic cliche, basically). Tell me of your love!
I actually also found a Vanozza POV vid where she ruminates on how Rodrigo seems to have forgotten he existed, and that it was probably for the best.
Lol, how true. It probs is for the best. He's just chilling with his hot wife, living the life. Good on you, Gioffre.
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Hahaha. When I gather my thoughts into some sort of order that isn't just about how sassy he is.
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Cardinal Sforza gives no fucks.
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