hey, save some for me!

Aug 10, 2004 20:11

so i saw a political cartoon today in one of the major newspapers. it had a drawing of an old guy stirring a pot labeled "mideast politics" and pouring in the contents of a box labeled "religion". the uncle sam character was stirring a pot labeled "american politics" and yelled out to the old guy "hey! save some for me ( Read more... )

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darin_n August 11 2004, 18:08:12 UTC
everyone tries to harp on the idea of seperation of church and state but in reality theres no seperation of government and politics. Political ideology is based on a persons morales, morales of which are shapped by our outside influences, family, socioeconomic background, and pertainant to this entry, religion. Peoples personal believes, which determine their politics, have a strong foundation in religion, so saying "religion has no place in politics" is correct but wishful thinking

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dabubzilla August 12 2004, 17:30:49 UTC
i understand what you are saying and it is a good point, but george bush has actually cited his religion as sources of his policies. i read a time magazine article last year on the way in iraq that detailed the presidents "holy cause"in the middle east and talked about god had given him a mandate to spread the christian government of democracy to the islamic dictatorships of the middle east. THAT is a blatant merge of church and state, beyond just his ideas and background. and the attempts to ban gay marriage, although they all say its about the family and the children, those are such weak arguments that can be easily discounted by the fact that single parents are allowed to keep children and that straight couples are allowed to divorce that the only reason the right is trying to ban it is because of religious reasons. god tells them that homosexuality is bad and so there shouldnt be gay marriage, because marriage is a "god-given gift". they fail to see the legality of the issue. the proponents of banning same-sex marriage say its ( ... )

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_pulkritudinous August 16 2004, 20:03:24 UTC
Religion does have a part in politics, but only to a certain extent.

A good political leader can have beliefs, but also capability to make decisions based on solid facts and evidence, not myths and fairy tales.

Here's a quote from Bush who is speaking to Prime Minister Mahmoud Abas:
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them." ClickThis is where religion in politics gets way out of control. It's okay that our president believes in God, I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is a president that uses this God figure and his religious beliefs to persuade other parties to follow him. Religion has been used for centuries to control the public. "If you don't follow these rules, you'll go to Hell". It's not right for a leader to make decisions based on visions he may have had or voices ( ... )

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dabubzilla August 17 2004, 07:15:36 UTC
thank you mikaila, for seeing my point. bush takes it to a new extreme that is unexcusable.

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darin_n August 19 2004, 17:38:08 UTC
Its spelled Michaela... :P ( ... )

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Correction.. darin_n August 19 2004, 17:39:53 UTC
Click HERE for the correct address...

Kris

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_pulkritudinous August 19 2004, 18:22:23 UTC
Kris... :p ...

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