PSA

Dec 13, 2009 11:33

It is never okay to disregard a transperson's preferred gender identity. Not if he's a compulsive liar, not if he's a demonstrated con-artist, not if he's dragging down the name of fandom, not if he's the worst person on the internet ( Read more... )

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fenrisulfr December 13 2009, 17:39:08 UTC
Even if I don't know exactly what you're talking about, I know the story all too well. One of the first things my psycho ex did to tear me down after our breakup was kick my gender identity around our social circle to mock me.

So, yeah.

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badgerbag December 13 2009, 17:55:28 UTC
Oh now that's unfair. Link!

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slippery_fish December 13 2009, 17:59:54 UTC
I haven't read the post yet, but it sounds like the Victoria Bitter thing going down on Fandom Wank...

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rubynye December 13 2009, 18:09:21 UTC
That's what I was thinking too.

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fenrisulfr December 13 2009, 18:11:48 UTC
Oh geez, why did I have to go read that.

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badgerbag December 13 2009, 18:14:24 UTC
Oh, jesus-fucking-christ. Nevermind...I see it!

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brown_betty December 13 2009, 18:35:37 UTC
Sorry! Here, have an adorable wank I have named There's Porn? On the INTERNET?.

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tavella December 13 2009, 18:47:08 UTC
Or some people believe that it's part of an ongoing con, and refuse to participate in it in any form. There's some people who think it's the only true thing Amy's ever said, and that's fair enough, but I'm certainly not going to criticize people for not wanting to play with what they consider lies.

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brown_betty December 13 2009, 18:55:26 UTC
No, I can't agree. Once it's been pointed out (as it has) that this is really painful to every transperson who reads it, they ought at very least opt out and use 'they.'

I mean, I'm not going to go around printing up a blacklist, I don't judge them as people, and I recognize that many of these people have been deeply hurt, and are probably in many respects decent people, who in other circumstances would not disrespect transpeople. But in this case, their behaviour is unnecessarily hurtful to people who are not in any way involved, which is bad.

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impactbomb December 13 2009, 19:05:34 UTC
Yeah, well, screw you too, some of us have to live with the consequences of not being trusted to know our own goddamned gender identity because we're going to be painted as "just another con artist" since people are going to keep seeing this whole thing as yet another reason not to believe trans people when they say this because zomg one of us also happens to be a con artist, despite god fucking knows how many cis people being the exact same fucking thing and no one asks whether you're fucking presenting as your own goddamned gender identity for it, DO THEY.

Go to hell, take your justifications with you. I'm sorry, I'm not interested in being rational about this, and you can take it up with the rest of the entire cisgendered population.

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brown_betty December 13 2009, 19:14:21 UTC
I'm really sorry you've been subjected to this, and I apologize for the hurt you've received in the comments to my journal, and that I haven't maintained this as a safe space.

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minim_calibre December 13 2009, 20:18:01 UTC
I deleted because I posted in a hurry and realized it could have come off... not how intended.

I'm angry about the whole situation, and that people in a vulnerable position are getting hurt. I'll take him at his identity word (even if I take nothing else out of his mouth at face value, even if it's that the sky is blue), because that's what you do. Even if the person's otherwise a dishonest bundle of WTF. Even if the person's gender identity leaves you with internal doubts for other reasons (I'm thinking of when Mike Penner detransitioned from Christine Daniels back into a male identity--one still referred to him as he, even if one thought that inside, he was still the Christine he was briefly allowed to be, and wow, that made for a depressing series of obits to read, may ze rest in peace).

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