Never enough

[brokn2pieces]

Last night myself and a couple other folks met with a group of pastors (well, 3) at a church in north Seattle to talk about how the church can have a more "pastoral" response to gay folks. The conversation lasted for about and hour and a half and, like every previous conversation I've had like this over the last 12+ years, really took a lot out of

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[whobyfire78]

I've been asked to take part in several discussins of the kind you're describing over the years. Ever since my ridiculous experience as a member of this quasi-hipster cesspool of vapid fundagelical "relevance" church, my answer as always been a resounding, "Sorry, my time would be better spent teaching my cats to speak Norwegian." And no, I'm not just being sarcastic or exaggerating to make a point. It's absolutely true.

Why? For one thing, any church or ministry that needs to ask how it can make itself more "pastoral" towards gay people is bound to be of a variety with which I can find little if any common ground. What they really mean is that they want to maintain their stance that we're all depraved perverts without coming off as uncaring or anti-social justice. Which is impossible to do because, well, their stance against homosexuality makes absolutely no sense. It requires a word-for-word literal interpretation of the Bible, which in turn requires belief in a whole host of other things that none of them follow completely. Not to mention that their behaviour towards homosexuals completely contradicts the things they supposedly hold highest of all: love, mercy, justice, forgiveness, equality, etc. When fundagelical (sorry, I refuse to use the term "conservative" - it's a misnomer and it's too kind of a word) Christians claim to want open dialogue with us, it's bullshit, plain and simple. I won't waste my time because unlike them, I'm not desperate to try to hold onto my position. As humans evolve and society progresses, more and more people realize that rather than being an aberration or an abomination against an ancient middle eastern tribal deity who has a thing against women and shellfish, LGBT people are just like everyone else and therefore we deserve to be treated as such.