Vid: No Light, No Light

[bop_radar]

Title: No Light, No Light
Artist: Florence and the Machine
Source: Battlestar Galactica
Summary: "Tell me what you want me to say!" - Kara
Acknowledgments: Without

Comments

[callmeonetrack]

I'm so glad you made this vid. *hugs*

What I love most is how you completely capture the duality of Kara and how each sequence of where she lets someone in or feels something too deeply is immediately followed by her pushing them away or walking away or intentionally frakking it all up (mostly with Lee) when the pounding chorus of "no light no light" comes back. I do totally see the "inner turmoil" and "constant in-your-face-ness" that Kara's experiencing plain as day with the way you've cut and edited this vid. <3 (I also really love that it begins with this quiet introspective moment for Kara just herself, just alone, when she doesn't have to put on an act or make herself be any particular way because it's a totally unguarded moment. And I love that there's the breakthrough groundbreaking night footage of Lee upsetting her apple cart at such a powerful break in the music before the pounding chorus comes rushing back. And I love that the end is the slap-kiss--because what better represents Kara and her complicated feelings towards

[bop_radar]

Oh, Tara, I'm so thrilled and amazed and humbled that you like this so much, and that you see your Kara in it!! Thanks so much for reccing it as well! ((hugs))

And yes, I DO SEE HER TOO!!!! *twirls* It's really thrilling for me, actually, it's like discovering the whole show over again... and in a more complete way, because it makes the picture much fuller when I can connect openly with Kara's perspective too.

The credit for the ending should go to m_a_r_i_k_s who suggested the slap-kiss! I agree it works really really well. I'd been playing with some other footage but when I tried this it was immediately apparent what a great choice it was for summing up.

I'm super-thrilled you like the night footage. :) I really pushed out the length that shot was held for but it was such an amazing opportunity to show how uncomfortable Kara is. ;)

it's with him that we get to see that deepest self of her I think, that chewy emotional center I think so too! Of course there is some wonderful material of her with other people too... even not necessarily

[m_a_r_i_k_s]

Those glimpses of that buried self are so compelling, aren't they? They're a treasure!

Did you ever try to imagine how it would sound, what kind of "picture" it would create if you take all those moments when Kara says Lee's name out loud with different intonations - put them together and just "watch" attentively with your ears? :-)

[bop_radar]

Oh, that's a lovely idea!! :)

[callmeonetrack]

Butting in just to say that would be amazing! At the start of one of my vids I included a tiny series of sound clips of Kara saying "So What?" about six time in totally different inflections/tone of voices and I was surprised by how effective and interesting and kind of powerful it was. I can only imagine LEE'S NAME would be on another plane of powerful entirely! Katee does such amazing things with her voice/vocal inflection alone that it blows me away. A lot of her voiceover work for comics and video games is just really stunning because she conveys so much without even using one of her biggest assets which is how amazingly transparent and changeable her face is. (I always think I've never seen a better actress able to convey multiple conflicting emotions at once without so much as even a sigh, never mind dialogue. <3 <3)

(ETA: I'd love to see the reverse also--all the times that he says her name and what that sounds like.)

[m_a_r_i_k_s]

Oh yeah I remember that start of So What you made to one of the songs by Pink. I thought it must've taken you forever to cut those moments and put them together! :-) But the effect and image it creates are totally worth it

[callmeonetrack]

Oh no--it was actually surprisingly quick! I remembered at least a few of the "So What"s right off the bat and I did a little transcript searching to find the others! I wasn't sure what to do with it at first, because I don't really look dialogue over my vids, but it worked okay as a leadup to the song starting I thought.

Oooh yes--the moan would definitely be the, uh, climax point. ;)

oh wow, that's so sad. Their voices lend sooo much to the individual character portrayals!

Definitely, I love the way he says her name especially when he's calling for her when they're flying--and he slips and uses Kara (all desperate and panicky) instead of Starbuck. <3

[callmeonetrack]

She's amazing, that's how. :) Ooh do that picspam!

[callmeonetrack]

The credit for the ending should go to m_a_r_i_k_s who suggested the slap-kiss! I agree it works really really well. I'd been playing with some other footage but when I tried this it was immediately apparent what a great choice it was for summing up.

I think, for me anyway, that now there's an instinctive fear that any Kara vid will/must end with the poofing just because that was her end in the show and while that works wonderfully in some vids, that ending is so not about Kara being Kara to me and her not having a choice in it and no agency so... I'm just really glad it doesn't have a place in this particular vid? (Actually now that I think about it--did you vid anything after maelstrom? Maybe just the shot of them in their vipers together when she first comes back? I'll have to watch again.)

I'm super-thrilled you like the night footage. :) I really pushed out the length that shot was held for but it was such an amazing opportunity to show how uncomfortable Kara is. ;)Oh that's interesting because I never see her as uncomfortable

[bop_radar]

Oh god, I could never have ended with the 'poofing'!! I did use some footage from season 4 though not very much. I used the shot from the memorial hall when she beams at him so radiantly because I felt it was important, but I didn't feel any need to include anything else (and this wasn't one of those vids where I really felt pushed to show the WHOLE of their story--it was more about teasing out this specific aspect and feeling as clearly as possible).

trying to process it and her own self-doubts coming to the surface --and maybe that's all you mean-Yes, it's all I mean. It's an incredible moment of opening herself up. I don't believe she is thinking of fleeing back to Anders or anything. If she wanted that really she'd have done it. :p But I think it's a moment of opening herself to the unknown and some self-doubts, yes, arising. It's uncomfortable for her from that perspective. Lee works kind of like a mirror for her in that moment and she squirms at the reflection... at first. But she doesn't actually run away from it. I love

[callmeonetrack]

Lee works kind of like a mirror for her in that moment and she squirms at the reflection... at first. But she doesn't actually run away from it. I love watching that.

I was just saying to Mariks downstream actually that I always read pilots as being so scarily similar at heart (as opposed to so many people who seem to dwell on their differences/opposite natures). So that moment when he says "I didn't want to admit how much I needed you...how much I needed anyone" and Kara just nods and says "Yeah." I thought that was incredibly profound. It's that similarity, that mirror, the way their hearts are so similarly scared and scarred, that fraks them up time and time again and just gets me sooo much. <3

Ooh very excited to hear you say you may need to explore things that aren't in this vid and that you may not be able to stop vidding Kara now that you've started. GOOD GOOD GOOOD! <3

[bop_radar]

Ohh, I like the scarily similar idea!! :) I might in the past have resisted defensively and said although I saw some similarities, there were more differences. But I don't feel the same way now... Discovering Kara so completely separately, AFTER Lee, makes me notice a lot of similarities--especially when I'm noticing how when I watch for her primarily I don't find it hard to slip into her point of view.

I think they both have a primary struggle which is that their hearts call out to each other but they have so much crap in their heads (from parents, from other people's expectations and their own excessive self-criticism) that they doubt and fear and avoid.

That moment you mention is a great example--of one of them saying words and the other identifying--and that moment breaks down the feeling of enormous distance between them (which feeds the fear).

Yeah, I already started another one! And it's KILLING me emotionally--I cried almost more clipping its four sections so far than I did in this whole vid. But i'm hungry for it! :p