Title: No Light, No Light Artist: Florence and the Machine Source: Battlestar Galactica Summary: "Tell me what you want me to say!" - Kara Acknowledgments: Without
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Oh god, I could never have ended with the 'poofing'!! I did use some footage from season 4 though not very much. I used the shot from the memorial hall when she beams at him so radiantly because I felt it was important, but I didn't feel any need to include anything else (and this wasn't one of those vids where I really felt pushed to show the WHOLE of their story--it was more about teasing out this specific aspect and feeling as clearly as possible).
trying to process it and her own self-doubts coming to the surface --and maybe that's all you mean- Yes, it's all I mean. It's an incredible moment of opening herself up. I don't believe she is thinking of fleeing back to Anders or anything. If she wanted that really she'd have done it. :p But I think it's a moment of opening herself to the unknown and some self-doubts, yes, arising. It's uncomfortable for her from that perspective. Lee works kind of like a mirror for her in that moment and she squirms at the reflection... at first. But she doesn't actually run away from it. I love watching that.
lengthening/slowing Thankfully didn't have to do any actual slowing there! That shot is INCREDIBLE ... Katee's facial work is amazing.
I really liked seeing the longer play of emotion on her face with it slowed down and broken up here Coooool! I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, it's super fast in canon and I wasn't sure if this would work but I was pleased when I got it to because I think this very self-contained grief reaction is actually very moving... she goes and mourns in private, won't show her feelings in a public outburst. And that actually makes me feel for her more ... though I used to think she didn't react at all! It was different when I rewatched with a more open heart and mind.
Did you consider including more/any footage of the two of them? Not in this one... I was pretty clear that this was All About Lee. ;) (Although there was this hideous--but blessedly brief--period where Anders somehow took over the ending!!) The only time when I was tempted was in dealing with Zak guilt because that scene with him is amazing. I use that shot of her reacting and turning away from him as a layer but don't actually show him. I could imagine vidding more with Adama and Kara in another vid though. As I was vidding this one, I started getting that twitch to explore some of the things that AREN'T in this vid. I agree though that some of it is unpleasant territory to say the least.
I never saw her as a caricature ... and I don't have any attachment to the original series. But I didn't immediately click into 'omg, you are MY character' with her the way many people did. I did love the reunion scene with Lee though... in that scene I was very much drawn to both of them and the energy between them--the chemistry was off the charts and I was fascinated. I also loved the scene where she told him about passing Zak. I didn't immediately know what to make of her though... I should have just been relaxed about that and taken time to get to know the person behind all these aspects. But I got intimidated by other people really clicking with her straight away, and just backed off for a long time.
But I'm glad to say it's never too late to remedy! :)
Lee works kind of like a mirror for her in that moment and she squirms at the reflection... at first. But she doesn't actually run away from it. I love watching that.
I was just saying to Mariks downstream actually that I always read pilots as being so scarily similar at heart (as opposed to so many people who seem to dwell on their differences/opposite natures). So that moment when he says "I didn't want to admit how much I needed you...how much I needed anyone" and Kara just nods and says "Yeah." I thought that was incredibly profound. It's that similarity, that mirror, the way their hearts are so similarly scared and scarred, that fraks them up time and time again and just gets me sooo much. <3
Ooh very excited to hear you say you may need to explore things that aren't in this vid and that you may not be able to stop vidding Kara now that you've started. GOOD GOOD GOOOD! <3
Ohh, I like the scarily similar idea!! :) I might in the past have resisted defensively and said although I saw some similarities, there were more differences. But I don't feel the same way now... Discovering Kara so completely separately, AFTER Lee, makes me notice a lot of similarities--especially when I'm noticing how when I watch for her primarily I don't find it hard to slip into her point of view.
I think they both have a primary struggle which is that their hearts call out to each other but they have so much crap in their heads (from parents, from other people's expectations and their own excessive self-criticism) that they doubt and fear and avoid.
That moment you mention is a great example--of one of them saying words and the other identifying--and that moment breaks down the feeling of enormous distance between them (which feeds the fear).
Yeah, I already started another one! And it's KILLING me emotionally--I cried almost more clipping its four sections so far than I did in this whole vid. But i'm hungry for it! :p
trying to process it and her own self-doubts coming to the surface --and maybe that's all you mean-
Yes, it's all I mean. It's an incredible moment of opening herself up. I don't believe she is thinking of fleeing back to Anders or anything. If she wanted that really she'd have done it. :p But I think it's a moment of opening herself to the unknown and some self-doubts, yes, arising. It's uncomfortable for her from that perspective. Lee works kind of like a mirror for her in that moment and she squirms at the reflection... at first. But she doesn't actually run away from it. I love watching that.
lengthening/slowing
Thankfully didn't have to do any actual slowing there! That shot is INCREDIBLE ... Katee's facial work is amazing.
I really liked seeing the longer play of emotion on her face with it slowed down and broken up here
Coooool! I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, it's super fast in canon and I wasn't sure if this would work but I was pleased when I got it to because I think this very self-contained grief reaction is actually very moving... she goes and mourns in private, won't show her feelings in a public outburst. And that actually makes me feel for her more ... though I used to think she didn't react at all! It was different when I rewatched with a more open heart and mind.
Did you consider including more/any footage of the two of them?
Not in this one... I was pretty clear that this was All About Lee. ;) (Although there was this hideous--but blessedly brief--period where Anders somehow took over the ending!!) The only time when I was tempted was in dealing with Zak guilt because that scene with him is amazing. I use that shot of her reacting and turning away from him as a layer but don't actually show him. I could imagine vidding more with Adama and Kara in another vid though. As I was vidding this one, I started getting that twitch to explore some of the things that AREN'T in this vid. I agree though that some of it is unpleasant territory to say the least.
I never saw her as a caricature ... and I don't have any attachment to the original series. But I didn't immediately click into 'omg, you are MY character' with her the way many people did. I did love the reunion scene with Lee though... in that scene I was very much drawn to both of them and the energy between them--the chemistry was off the charts and I was fascinated. I also loved the scene where she told him about passing Zak. I didn't immediately know what to make of her though... I should have just been relaxed about that and taken time to get to know the person behind all these aspects. But I got intimidated by other people really clicking with her straight away, and just backed off for a long time.
But I'm glad to say it's never too late to remedy! :)
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I was just saying to Mariks downstream actually that I always read pilots as being so scarily similar at heart (as opposed to so many people who seem to dwell on their differences/opposite natures). So that moment when he says "I didn't want to admit how much I needed you...how much I needed anyone" and Kara just nods and says "Yeah." I thought that was incredibly profound. It's that similarity, that mirror, the way their hearts are so similarly scared and scarred, that fraks them up time and time again and just gets me sooo much. <3
Ooh very excited to hear you say you may need to explore things that aren't in this vid and that you may not be able to stop vidding Kara now that you've started. GOOD GOOD GOOOD! <3
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I think they both have a primary struggle which is that their hearts call out to each other but they have so much crap in their heads (from parents, from other people's expectations and their own excessive self-criticism) that they doubt and fear and avoid.
That moment you mention is a great example--of one of them saying words and the other identifying--and that moment breaks down the feeling of enormous distance between them (which feeds the fear).
Yeah, I already started another one! And it's KILLING me emotionally--I cried almost more clipping its four sections so far than I did in this whole vid. But i'm hungry for it! :p
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