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[astridv]

I received a question about Bones fic but I'm too out of touch with the fandom so I'm forwarding it to my friends list: Are there any good Bones fanfic archives where authors can upload fic? Back during S2 or so I had pondered making one using the BBFA's code, as that would've required only minor twisting. But then someone else mentioned they

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[sholio]

I found the sarahtales post very fascinating as well, especially in light of recent events in certain fandoms that shall remain nameless!

While it's unfortunate that we have to scrutinize our likes/dislikes more closely if it's a female character, I also think we *should*. There are both male and female characters (and character archetypes) that I just don't like and probably never will. But I have also caught myself treating female characters unfairly on more than one occasion -- most recently with Gwen in Torchwood. It's easy to jump on a bandwagon, and those bandwagons seem to get rolling much more easily with female than male characters!

[newscaper]

Perhaps you meant to say this?
"...and those bandwagons seem to get rolling much more easily with female than male viewers!"

;)

[sholio]

Er ... I can't tell if you're joking here or not, in which case sorry for being obtuse :), but I said what I meant to say. The hate-bandwagon-piling-on is something that I've mostly seen happen to female rather than male characters. (Not exclusively -- I can think of male counter-examples, but they're much, much rarer. Actually, off the top of my head I can only think of one. No wait, two, both of them in anime fandoms. Whereas without even straining myself I can think of a good dozen female characters who've gotten that treatment, and that's just in the fandoms in which I'm active right now

[newscaper]

Semi-joking :)

"...most of my fannish experience has been in mostly-female fandoms..."

Sort of tangentially my point of observation. It seems most of them are (at least in the LJ way as opposed to the ST convention way).

I do remember a bit of a flap in the Spiderman comics realm. JMS of Babylon 5 fame was surprised by the level of hostility to Gwen as he wrote her.

BTw, about female and male fandoms, that's a reason I'm lukewarm about OTW -- from this guy's POV they seem to overreach in effectively claiming all of fandom under the mantle of a sort of feminism, which to me seems dismissive of the male-heavy domains (which may more stretch the standard conception of 'fandom' as mostly fic-centered plus some visual art & mashups).

[astridv]

What friendshipper said.

I don't think it has much to do with the viewer's gender. Misogyny is endemic in our society, no one is immune. Our community here just happens to be largely female. And I do find it more depressing when I see it coming from other women.

[astridv]

Did you read the posts by taraljc and yahtzee on the same subject?

By taraljc: This post about Uhura and the follow-up Uhura, McCoy, and Fannish Double Standards (I have only skimmed the second one yet)

By yahtzee63: My New Rule: Anybody in fandom who hasn't liked a female character (ANY female character) enough to write/vid/meta about her in the past five years is not a person I am listening to about -- you know, I was going to say "feminism," but I will expand that to "anything."
The post is short, but there's extensive discussion in the comments. People from over a dozen fandoms, talking about the exact same phenomenon without missing a beat.

While it's unfortunate that we have to scrutinize our likes/dislikes more closely if it's a female character, I also think we *should*.

Yes, that.

Once our blind spots are pointed out to us and we got over the initial knee jerk response, we can't ignore them. I mean, better to look at something ugly than being blindfolded.

It's easy to jump on a bandwagon, and those bandwagons seem to get rolling