Symptom of Rape Culture?
I'd really like as many as possible to comment on this, if you have the time/inclinations/a lot of feelings, okay?
It's about this story of mine. It's also available here if you aren't a member of H&V. In the Darkness, All Cats are Grey.
I just received a PM about that fic. Rather than summarize it, I will copy it in its entirety, leaving out who ( Read more... )
It's about this story of mine. It's also available here if you aren't a member of H&V. In the Darkness, All Cats are Grey.
I just received a PM about that fic. Rather than summarize it, I will copy it in its entirety, leaving out who ( Read more... )
I've read the first half of the fic, and what I notice is that by the end of it, Hermione still thinks that the guy is Ron. A different Ron, yes, and she even remarks at some point that it would be exciting to fantasize about him not being Ron at all, but the point remains that by the time she's given him a blow job, been stripped naked, and is suggesting penis-in-vagina, she still thinks the guy is Ron. Or at least, that's the way it reads to me. At no point did I get the impression that she seriously, honestly considered that it might actually not be Ron.
Which in turn means that she's only consenting to sex with Ron. At no point do I see her consenting to sex with anyone else. Thus she never consents to sex with Draco, thus it's non-con. And rape on Draco's part, since he knows full well what's going on ( ... )
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I've read the first half of the fic, and what I notice is that by the end of it, Hermione still thinks that the guy is Ron. A different Ron, yes, and she even remarks at some point that it would be exciting to fantasize about him not being Ron at all, but the point remains that by the time she's given him a blow job, been stripped naked, and is suggesting penis-in-vagina, she still thinks the guy is Ron. Or at least, that's the way it reads to me. At no point did I get the impression that she seriously, honestly considered that it might actually not be Ron.
And that's a very valid point to make. It's extremely possible that the subtleness is too subtle as I keep having her rationalize so she can go on. Like, I don't even recall (sorry, epic headache today so even reading this is causing me pain and rereading will have to wait) if I make her make note of the different size, shape and feel of the penis as she starts oral, and those differences should be there, ya know? ( ... )
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Like, I don't even recall (sorry, epic headache today so even reading this is causing me pain and rereading will have to wait) if I make her make note of the different size, shape and feel of the penis as she starts oral, and those differences should be there, ya know? Just to pick an example. And all that stuff can definitely be put on me, as the author. But there's other stuff like, before the PIV he says "Don't call me Ron!!" and if that's not supposed to make someone as clever as Hermione stop and think, I don't know what is.See, it's interesting that you should mention these two particular ( ... )
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By the way: your favourite childhood fairytales can take on a decidedly bitter taste when you start looking at them in such a way :P
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Denial is the way to happiness :P
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And this may also be why nobody ever challenged the view before.
... and it's very fluffy too ...
Heeh! I don't think anybody called it fluffy before. :D
By the way: your favourite childhood fairytales can take on a decidedly bitter taste when you start looking at them in such a way :P
Haha, I remember especially liking that fairy tale with the prince who was moonlighting as a giant worm monster or something who killed all the princesses that married him, and then they eventually ran out of princesses. I especially remember this one scene where the heroine sees this chamber filled with princess body parts and sees him take a ring from a finger that he later gives to her.
I still find it to be one of the better ones, although I don't remember its name or origin.
Clearly, I'm damaged.
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That fairy tale you describe, on the other hand, doesn't sound fluffy at all to me :D D:
Meh. I'm damaged and my chat-partner-in-crime is damaged as well, so no stones are gonna get thrown your way from my general direction :P
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...as I ready myself to post prompts at hp_kinkfest, lol.
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There should probably have been some more disclosure in there about how, if she acknowledges that this isn't Ron, she won't feel like she can go on, so adamantly sticking to the Ron-Ron-Ron schtick is necessary for her own peace of mind. And that, right there, is useful knowledge for me as an author who likes to write skeevy stuff. Because there comes a time when the stuff out-skeeves itself to some of the readers, because they aren't inside my head.
I sincerely think this might indeed be a case of being too subtle. I know how hard it can be to walk the line between hinting strongly at things ( ... )
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