Essay: Comparing real history and APH canon of Rome, the Italys, Vatican City and Seborga

Jan 15, 2011 21:05

Okay, since I've heard the new header disappointed some because there's no Romano in it, implying again Rome favoured Veneziano, let's go check real world history and see how it would fit in Hetalia canon. Also, since we’re at it let’s see a bit of Rome’s history, if we can discover when the Italys had birth and which was their relation with Rome ( Read more... )

chara: vatican city, chara: italy (north) veneziano, chara: seborga, chara: roma antiqua, fan: essay, chara: italy (south) romano

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seraphoftales February 3 2012, 23:10:17 UTC
Ahahahaha oh man, I was trying to figure this out too when I was learning about it in history class ( ... )

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jjblue1 February 4 2012, 22:36:23 UTC
It's an interesting theory but again it would clash with real history... but I guess the problem is that the basis Himaruya set clashes too much with real history for any theory to work, starting from the Italies' names and going on with the whole of their history ( ... )

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seraphoftales February 5 2012, 04:00:12 UTC
It is. Italian history really is. Himaruya's whole out take was to greatly summarize history since I doubt he meant anything deep by it. It's like the Spark Notes of Italian History? It explains why there's only two Italies instead of dozens of personified states. I guess he honed in on the North's industrialized / wealthier state as opposed to the South's agricultural focus ( ... )

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jjblue1 February 5 2012, 17:07:43 UTC
Most likely in the beginning he wanted to focus on WW2 and make a comic that was for his own amusement only (and of the ones who would come to his blog) so he didn't really thought too deep at how to portray Italy and his past. Now that APH is so popular he's being much more accurate about history and I love him for this.

PS: Hum... it depends on which time you're referring. During the Italian wars south Italy was also a whealty state, north Italy was a huge bunch of states that were already bitching among them and conqueering each other. Think at Italy back then as a small Europe. If you try to generalize the story of Europe as if it was a single entity... well, it gets messy.

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seraphoftales February 5 2012, 22:17:19 UTC
I was thinking more along the lines of the 11th to 14th centuries??? Ack, i may be a little off since I dont have my history book in front of me

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jjblue1 February 13 2012, 20:18:26 UTC
11th & 12th centuries were south's golden age and they signed the moment in which Romano had one of his most loved and amazing kings.
The following years were less good but probably because they were compared to the golden age (also because there were some wars between the Anjou and the Aragon).
According to many, troubles started in 15th century when south became its decadence period due to Spanish control... though it was a slow decadence so it wasn't all of suddently bad.

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