Essay: Comparing real history and APH canon of Rome, the Italys, Vatican City and Seborga

[jjblue1]

Okay, since I've heard the new header disappointed some because there's no Romano in it, implying again Rome favoured Veneziano, let's go check real world history and see how it would fit in Hetalia canon. Also, since we’re at it let’s see a bit of Rome’s history, if we can discover when the Italys had birth and which was their relation with Rome

Comments

[seraphoftales]

It is. Italian history really is. Himaruya's whole out take was to greatly summarize history since I doubt he meant anything deep by it. It's like the Spark Notes of Italian History? It explains why there's only two Italies instead of dozens of personified states. I guess he honed in on the North's industrialized / wealthier state as opposed to the South's agricultural focus???

But yeah it is as you say. He will have to retcon it to go deeper into history. But I dont think he really can??

Honestly, sometimes I really feel for the guy. You read his stuff and you get this feeling he never meant for it to get so popular or to be so highly scrutinized. Lol. Ah well.

PS I see. I guess it really is just a surface level thing. The basic points: North Italy was a wealthier state, Italy was a contested land, the legacy of Rome, those are the more or less true stuff. Highly overarching generalizations but if you push deeper and get more specific, the explanation aint gonna hold.

Ah, tell me if I'm mistaken about the generalizations! If that isn't quite holding up either.

[jjblue1]

Most likely in the beginning he wanted to focus on WW2 and make a comic that was for his own amusement only (and of the ones who would come to his blog) so he didn't really thought too deep at how to portray Italy and his past. Now that APH is so popular he's being much more accurate about history and I love him for this.

PS: Hum... it depends on which time you're referring. During the Italian wars south Italy was also a whealty state, north Italy was a huge bunch of states that were already bitching among them and conqueering each other. Think at Italy back then as a small Europe. If you try to generalize the story of Europe as if it was a single entity... well, it gets messy.

[seraphoftales]

I was thinking more along the lines of the 11th to 14th centuries??? Ack, i may be a little off since I dont have my history book in front of me

[jjblue1]

11th & 12th centuries were south's golden age and they signed the moment in which Romano had one of his most loved and amazing kings.
The following years were less good but probably because they were compared to the golden age (also because there were some wars between the Anjou and the Aragon).
According to many, troubles started in 15th century when south became its decadence period due to Spanish control... though it was a slow decadence so it wasn't all of suddently bad.