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nmg June 14 2008, 06:26:47 UTC
The funny bit is that in the offending phrase, "fucking" is an adverb.

Is it? I thought that it was a verbal adjective (so, a participle).

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valkyriekaren June 14 2008, 08:08:56 UTC
He's right, you know. To be an adverb it has to modify a verb.

Actually I don't think there is an adverbal form of 'fucking'. What would that be? 'Fuckingly'?

"How's it going?"
"Fuckingly, absolutely fuckingly!"

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zotz June 14 2008, 08:29:18 UTC
It may or may not amaze you to hear that certain individuals on t'internet (obviously individuals with nothing whatsoever in common with you, me or Nick) have nothing better to do with their time than debate this, and have apparently done so at some length.

Here is one. There seem to be a large number of others.

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nmg June 14 2008, 15:38:37 UTC
I stand corrected - I've just checked the OED entries for 'extremely', 'most' and 'very', and the sense in which 'fucking' is used is adverbial.

I shall now bore people with this fact at the next party I attend, and it'll all be your fault.

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naturalbornkaos June 14 2008, 09:07:38 UTC
Of course Swervedriver are back. Shoegazing is the in thing again. :)

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zotz June 14 2008, 17:00:17 UTC
I've seen Neu! shirts, yes. Actually, I've got a Neu! album, too.

The Meadows Festival was abandoned by its previous owners due to increased hassle over things like liability insurance and difficulty recruiting helpers, I believe. The new organisers seem to have made a good start at working it back to where it was, though, which is good because it was good fun.

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The N word jgbingo June 17 2008, 09:29:48 UTC
I can confirm that the "N" word was still acceptable, or at least still publishable, in children's books in the UK as late as 1974, since it appears in my 1974 reprint of the 1951 classic "Henry the Green Engine" by the Rev W. Awdry. (Kaye & Ward hardback edition pg 60)

In the Rev.'s defence, the context is description of some boys whom Henry has covered in ash ejected from his smokebox, and when reading this book to my son the "N" word in this simile is easily substituted with the word "coal". But I must replace and/or hide this book when he learns to read...

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