Was TOS S/Mc sexual tension intentional?

[zerrah]

So Kirk/McCoy is my otp, hands down, but after watching TOS episodes I've really started liking Spock/McCoy as a pairing. This could just be that Nimoy/Kelley and Urban/Pine have great chemistry, but there is something more I pick up from Kelley, especially in later episodes in TOS

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[zerrah]

omggg Shatner encourages it to this day. XD He is such an attention whore, I honestly think he did it partly for the shock factor. Also, when did Nimoy play a gay prisoner? Because that is very relevant to my interests.

I haven't even seen that particular episode yet and I've been noticing the deeper emotions from McCoy! Watched 'The Tholian Web' and "Galileo 7' and just the way McCoy looks at Spock... although the chemistry is more evident in 'The Tholian Web,' maybe because it's from the third season? But yeah, at this point I'm almost convinced that by the end of the series, Kelley knew that his character had attraction/feelings for Spock. I know this could be me fangirling and reading into things, but I'm normally good at picking up on subtleties and this is about as subtle as a mack truck.

Now I'm definitely going to go watch "All Our Yesterdays," and ST IV while I'm at it. Have you read any fics by cards_slash? She wrote two fics based on that episode, 'Barbarian' and 'What You Want,' that were really good.

[syredronning]

Woah, never saw that quote by De before! Where did you find it?

And considering that S/Mc is my TOSTrueLovePairing, I don't know if it's intentional but it's always been THERE for me :)

[lindmere]

It wouldn't be the first time that happened; Andy Robinson openly admitted in DS9. But then Andy Robinson is openly gay. My personal believe is that he was trying to convey an intense friendship that McCoy had trouble expressing verbally. But that's the great thing about subtext...if you think it's there, it's there!

[zerrah]

hmmm... maybe you're right. I know that, since coming to Ireland, men are much more affectionate and touchy-feely here, and it's easy to make assumptions because I'm not used to that in the States. I kinda wonder if it was that way in the 60's, if men were more openly affectionate with their male friends, or felt more comfortable doing so.

However, I have read somewhere that other viewers believed the character McCoy to be gay (non-slashers, people not in our fandom)... can't find it, though. And when I try to google it all that comes up is slash. lol

[lindmere]

hmmm... maybe you're right. I know that, since coming to Ireland, men are much more affectionate and touchy-feely here, and it's easy to make assumptions because I'm not used to that in the States. I kinda wonder if it was that way in the 60's, if men were more openly affectionate with their male friends, or felt more comfortable doing so.I think that's very much the case. I've been meaning to write a post about why I think the '60s and '70s were the golden age for slash. First, the country was coming out of the repressed '50s and realizing that being sensitive to the feelings of others could actually be a sign of a good, ethical person. Then there was the conviction of TV writers that female viewers would hate it if the hero had a long-term love interest. That meant that all of the emotional connections had to be between the male protagonists. That lasted well into the '80s, until shows started featuring female professionals in decent numbers

[zerrah]

That's REALLY interesting. I had no idea that was the intention of TV writers, although it makes sense; I know that I, at least, follow episodes religiously if I'm interested in a particular pairing that almost but not quite get together or have unrequited love, but sometimes lose interest if they actual start a relationship (Lois & Clark, etc.) So they DID have at least part of it right

[snackbreak]

I am with you dude, I first saw reboot and I was like "OMG KIRK/SPOCK FOREVAAAAAA" and then I decided I needed to watch TOS and be a well rounded fan. Seriously, the more I watch the more I am like "... and people say the Kirk/Spock was obvious? HOLY SHIT, SPOCK/MCCOY IS FUCKING AMAZING" and that's why my OTPs are different for reboot and for TOS.

[zerrah]

Yeah, K/S was my fav pairing before I saw the movie. Then I saw the movie and fell in lust love with Karl Urban, and wanted to slash him with his bff Jim.

Then, like you said, I went back and saw more episodes than the basics (I had seen Amok Time/Mirror Mirror/etc. already, crucial episodes for any ST slasher) and there was so much fighting and sniping and affection between S/Mc, I just loved it!

So yeah, for TOS my otp WAS K/S, Reboot it's K/Mc, and S/Mc for either since it's obvious in TOS and in Reboot I could slash Urban with anybody. :D