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marlowe78 March 22 2010, 22:30:45 UTC
Hah! I got rid of the competition *heheheheheee*
First to comment on ch 8 \o/

He should be comforted, he knows, but he isn’t. He just doesn’t know if it’s because his brother promised to save him before and didn’t, or if it’s because of the hard edge of anger in Sam’s voice, the sense that he’s taking control, that he’s handing out orders, that any concern he may feel is because he’s pissed at Castiel’s nerve. Or if it’s because it’s so plain in his eyes and his tone that his brother thinks he’s stronger than the angel now.

Oh man. So depressing...

That Hudak-part...creeped me out. And her too, apparently, when her thoughts go to Dexter. It can't be Missy, can it? She'd recognize her. Even with combed hair. So... a sister? Or nothing like that? Not Lilith, I'm sure. (hah, it says so in the prompt. I'm smart, I can read ;-) )

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zatnikatel March 22 2010, 23:25:26 UTC
I’M NOT SPOILING YOU! You can slice me, dice me, whatever. The answer is no…

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winchester66 March 24 2010, 17:23:33 UTC
“I never again want to hear you say you gave into thirty years of torture, Dean,” Sam says steadily. “Never. It wasn’t your fault. And I don’t give a damn what Castiel says, I don’t want you going up against Lilith alone. I won’t let you. I’m not doing New Harmony again. Ever.”

That is what it's all about isn't it? But somehow it's really chilling, I think because of the use of "I"... it's like only Sam matters. Did you write it that way on purpose? I know there is always a subtext in your stories!

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zatnikatel March 25 2010, 01:26:26 UTC
Actually you’re right: I did do it that way on purpose and only one other person has noticed it and commented. There is an ego at work there, I guess… although ostensibly Sam is expressing a need to protect/save Dean, there is a *me-me-me* about it: what matters to *him* comes first… and of course that comes from the need for control… well spotted! ;-)

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ann_tara March 29 2010, 12:28:38 UTC
I keep meaning to ask, obviously in this story you are referencing events in a past story - something that happens to Dean during The Benders, correct? Is it okay that I'm reading this one without having read that one ('cuz it sounds like it was probably rough too)?

It slays me how Sam can go from pissy jealousy to true brotherly concern in the flip of a switch. The jealousy part you got down pat from season four - I just wish we'd seen the concern part on screen too.

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zatnikatel March 29 2010, 14:42:31 UTC
One thing I’ve tried to do with this is acknowledge that the pissiness and jealousy has been an undercurrent at various times in Show - obvious examples being Asylum and Sex and Violence… on both of those occasions Sam might have been under the influence but the sentiments he expressed did’t come from nowhere - it was just that he was less inhibited about voicing them ( ... )

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sandymg March 29 2010, 16:42:45 UTC
Imma back. Bobby, as always, rocks ( ... )

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zatnikatel March 30 2010, 00:16:31 UTC
I think this is Sam’s essential tragedy in S4… the fact he was going so badly astray, but really didn’t have any other option as far as he could see…

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zatnikatel March 30 2010, 23:49:10 UTC
And I guess that perceived power struggle is what underpinned what he said to Dean in Fallen Idols… at the time he didn’t realize he really wasn’t in control at all - Ruby was. The big issue for me in FI is that Sam still didn’t accept that Dean had no control whatsoever…

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