Re: Cause I'm curiousz111May 16 2007, 03:02:06 UTC
*shrug*
I believe he'd qualify. He preached hatred and intolerance and caused great harm in his lifetime. He's been hugely influential in this country and not towards anything positive or worthwhile.
I'd guess you think it was just his aesthetics. I don't understand where you're coming from on this topic and I gave up trying awhile back. It seems like it's something very profound and maybe even sacred for you, but I don't grok it at all.
Re: Cause I'm curiousbacchuseternusMay 16 2007, 05:07:03 UTC
I guess I'm coming at you from a general semantics standpoint.
From Wikipedia:
"Advocates of General Semantics view it as a form of mental hygiene that enables practitioners to avoid ideational traps built into natural language and "common sense" assumptions, thereby enabling practitioners to think more clearly and effectively. "
As a friend, I thought I'd help you avoid the ideational trap of using the word "evil". If you don't want that kind of help from me, please let me know.
Re: Cause I'm curiousfraterseraphinoMay 16 2007, 05:53:47 UTC
You know, there is a reducto-ad-adsurdum argument in here somewhere, stemming from the belief that it is bad to believe that there are bad things out there--but instead I'd rather just *shrug* and move on...
I hope somebody really shows him what he could have said. The wonderful change he could have effected, . . .had he listened and been less narrow. What a shame! An audience of millions . . .
"For God so Loved the World."tholetasMay 16 2007, 06:46:54 UTC
Its a good question, and one which rode by me on its bicycle and waved . . but kept peddling on! I don't know the answer. Yet, it seems to me, there have been those who, once an audience has been secured, transmute and write and speak beyond themselves! Their own transmutation tinctures their audience.Changing them "into living philosophical stones." I know, I'm a dreamer, but it has happened. There is so much in christian scriptures, which ennoble the spirit and soul of mankind! He had a lot to choose from . . . I don't know. Thanks for your reply.
It's hard to say, but I often wish xian preachers spent more time preaching about things like compassion, love, and easing the suffering of others. Those are the things that I see as xian values that seem to get lost in the hellfire, hate and damnation.
Yeah, but retiredkrishnahermesMay 16 2007, 06:52:56 UTC
Yeah, he was a real M-F back in the 80s, but he's really been largely retired and out of it.
Its far more disturbing that a majority of Supreme Court justices are members of Opus Dei, they've got the chance to totally throw two hundred years of US law out the window and replace it with Opus Dei facism.
I have a friend in her 80s who went to visit the Opus Dei house at UCLA, and they were viciously rude to her. Anyone who can be that rude to a defensely 82 year old Catholic lady, who call themselves Catholic, are some real M-Fs.
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D'accord. I've got my own suspicions re the nature of the "whatever," but eh -- I'll wait and see what happens.
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I believe he'd qualify. He preached hatred and intolerance and caused great harm in his lifetime. He's been hugely influential in this country and not towards anything positive or worthwhile.
I'd guess you think it was just his aesthetics. I don't understand where you're coming from on this topic and I gave up trying awhile back. It seems like it's something very profound and maybe even sacred for you, but I don't grok it at all.
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From Wikipedia:
"Advocates of General Semantics view it as a form of mental hygiene that enables practitioners to avoid ideational traps built into natural language and "common sense" assumptions, thereby enabling practitioners to think more clearly and effectively. "
As a friend, I thought I'd help you avoid the ideational trap of using the word "evil". If you don't want that kind of help from me, please let me know.
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What a shame! An audience of millions . . .
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but kept peddling on! I don't know the answer. Yet, it seems to me, there have been those who, once an audience has been secured, transmute and write and speak beyond themselves!
Their own transmutation tinctures their audience.Changing them "into living philosophical stones."
I know, I'm a dreamer, but it has happened. There is so much in christian scriptures, which ennoble the spirit and soul of mankind! He had a lot to choose from . . . I don't know. Thanks for your reply.
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It seems hate is so much more compelling....
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Its far more disturbing that a majority of Supreme Court justices are members of Opus Dei, they've got the chance to totally throw two hundred years of US law out the window and replace it with Opus Dei facism.
I have a friend in her 80s who went to visit the Opus Dei house at UCLA, and they were viciously rude to her. Anyone who can be that rude to a defensely 82 year old Catholic lady, who call themselves Catholic, are some real M-Fs.
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