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gabby227 November 17 2011, 22:19:26 UTC
OMG. That was such a good story. I really liked it, although it is kind of sad (but it always is, when it comes to Damon/Caroline, right? Even though I kind of ship them pretty hard. That's your fault, btw). Anyway, good story. You really captured Caroline's personality IMO.

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 13:07:53 UTC
although it is kind of sad (but it always is, when it comes to Damon/Caroline.

Oh, I know, right? I think I've written one semi-normal, semi-happy fic for them, but the rest all of the "oh my god, how do I ship this so much when they're so horrific and dysfunctional" variety. BUT THE SEX AND THE SNARK. I am convinced they'd be epic in both.

Thank you so much! :D

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gabby227 November 19 2011, 04:17:30 UTC
idk, if you ask me, I think that Damon/Caroline have the possibility to be EPIC. They're so dysfunctional that, I think, they'd have a chance to be semi-happy if they were so inclined (which is why most of my Damon/Caroline fics have happy endings. I just think they have the possibility to be a truly kick-ass couple.).

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youcallitwinter November 19 2011, 13:26:10 UTC
Oh, I definitely agree; I can see them snarking their way through eternity and falling in love over an eternity (with them, it definitely won't be less than 500 years, heh). And they're both so messed up, they'll probably cancel each other out and won't allow the other to whine. Aww. I REALLY WANT DAMON/ELENA/STEFAN/CAROLINE ENDGAME. OT4 for the win!

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 13:13:24 UTC
You are very nice to me as always, I notice. But oh my god, Caroline/her insecurities is OTP, she was literally the only realistic character on this show in the Pilot, and her relationship with Damon was horrific and excellent all at the same time.

And her desperate desire to please.

THIS IS HER. Even Caroline/Matt was awful because of this D:

Damon and his fucked up, playful affections

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE FIRST SEASON /burn, but Damon is oddly playful and affectionate with her sometimes and that has to be the most terrifying thing ever.

Thank you for basically getting the whole thing (EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE FIRST SEASON) <3

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youcallitwinter November 19 2011, 13:24:03 UTC
Heh, our mutual love for each other makes us indulge in so much PDA :D

Haha, you're right there about consistency; although Damon with Caroline was a lot more humanly terrifying than Damon with Andie, but that is also because Damon was the "bad guy" then and you weren't supposed to root for him, as it stood. (Good luck with making people not like early-S1-Damon when he has all the one-liners Ian's face, show.)

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sleuthinpumps November 18 2011, 00:36:25 UTC
Beautiful, beautiful, GORGEOUS. More than anything I love the way this reads almost like a song or a poem. You've created some wonderful imagery and woven it into this rhythm with repeating choruses. I really love the pairing as well. It's so tragic and unhealthy and full of weakness that it's kind of perfect. I'll definitely be thinking about this story for weeks.

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 13:19:38 UTC
What a very lovely comment! I appreciate this comment so much on a purely critical level separate from the fic, all by itself, because you've used the extended metaphor of poetry so well in it. My god, that was possibly the oddest thing I've ever said D:

It's so tragic and unhealthy and full of weakness that it's kind of perfect.

God, yes, this. This is exactly why I ship them.

Thanks a lot, that's really nice of you :)

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nonky November 18 2011, 04:03:09 UTC
This is so good. I ship Damon and Caroline in their unhealthy eater and eaten relationship far more than I like to admit all the time. He was so undeniably boyfriendy at times, indulgent and tolerant of her tastes and also cruel and exploitive.

It's a great dichotomy there, where the only one more conflicted about their destructive relationship than Caroline is Damon. I like that the show has move them beyond it, but that first season with Caroline as both prey and heckler to Damon's plans was brilliant in a way it's hard to express. Excellent take on it, and now I ship Caroline/issues.

(Don't tell anyone I was here, though, I'm supposed to be NaNoing.)

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 13:27:50 UTC
I ship Damon and Caroline in their unhealthy eater and eaten relationship far more than I like to admit all the time.

Yeah, I'm pretty shameless about shipping them. I wax lyrical about Damon and consent and horrific and things and then ship them so hard, I don't even anymore D:

He was so undeniably boyfriendy at times, indulgent and tolerant of her tastes and also cruel and exploitative.

I find this absolutely fascinating; like, I'd like to write ALL THE FICS about this. It's something that never manifested itself later; because Damon with Andie was equally horrific, but he never had his real humanly cruel moments, as his redemption arc had started. Even that terrible scene where she's standing in her underwear and he basically feeds on her is a vampire thing, while "stupid, shallow, useless" is undeniably a human thing. I always ship all the wrong ships anyway :s

now I ship Caroline/issues.

OTP, ngl.

Don't tell anyone I was here, though, I'm supposed to be NaNoing.I COULD NEVER DO THAT, I'm so incredibly allergic to work, and ( ... )

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goldy_dollar November 18 2011, 04:52:21 UTC
Oh whoa. This is great.

I love that you drove straight into it - the abuse and Caroline being so young and her insecurity (omg, that line about how she thinks she will never be as beautiful as Elena oh Caroline D:).

Also love this:

(Katherine, he whispers sometimes, his hair plastered to his face, his cock still inside her, Katherine. She must have been some kind of a goddess in his time, Caroline decides, his reverence mingling with the sweat on her skin. An old goddess, with statues and worshippers to her name. Katherine. It’s a pretty name).

Because it weirdly humanized Damon in a fic where he was otherwise the abuser? And Caroline, not being jealous about it. Katherine is a pretty name. KILL ME.

Basically: I LOVE YOUR WRITING. WRITE ME ALL THE THINGS ALL THE TIME.

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 13:31:42 UTC
Thank you <3 I do not know if you make it a habit to read D/C, but the fact that you did made me :D

Caroline being so young and her insecurity.

Those are my favorite things about Caroline; she always seems so young and innocent despite everything she's gone through (including being murdered and turning :s) and Caroline/her insecurities = OTP.

Damon is completely caught in a circle of abuse; he's pretty much Caroline's Katherine with all the abuse and none of the love. Man, what things do I ship even. D:

YOU WOULD GET TIRED IF I DID. RANDOM, FAR AWAY UPDATES ARE FOR THE GREATER GOOD, I SWEAR. (Besides I want you to write me things all the time, so).

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goldy_dollar November 18 2011, 18:29:31 UTC
Haha, I will read pretty much anything in TVD if the mood strikes or I know the author will treat it properly. I don't think I would read the MAJORITY of D/C fic to be honest. XD

Man, what things do I ship even. D:

*pats* TVD makes all of us question our morals.

YOU WOULD GET TIRED IF I DID. RANDOM, FAR AWAY UPDATES ARE FOR THE GREATER GOOD, I SWEAR.

THESE ARE NOT TRUTHS. I ALWAYS WANT YOUR UPDATES.

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youcallitwinter November 18 2011, 18:53:11 UTC
THAT ICON IS GORGEOUS. D: Caroline's smile is my favorite thing in the world, trufax.

Haha, I think I would too; because I genuinely do ship everyone/everyone on this show. Damon/Caroline has some excellent fic though, which makes me happy, heh/

MY MORAL COMPASS POINTS SOUTH NOW D:

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