Johnny's vs SMAP Long Battle - The Chronology

[yanie02]

First of all, I hate this picture. They make it like it's a dispute between SMAP & Arashi. Arashi is innocent. They don't know anything, SMAP's battle with the agency has been going on since before Arashi members were born! Lol, okay, that's an exaggeration, since before Arashi made their debut might be correct^^

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[himaori]

Yanie, I'm just a silent reader of your LJ but I read almost your entries about Smap. I have to comment on this post to say thank you for writing such an interesting entry. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this issue.

About KAT-TUN, I've been their fan since 2005 and particularly Jin's fan. I'm not really sure about it but maybe the reason that Julie took KAT-TUN back to her is because Akanishi Jin left the group in 2010, after they made an appearance on SMAPxSMAP new year special. Julie really adores Kame, while she really hates Jin (he is a rebel and will not obey rules). So Jin's out of the group may be that reason.

[yanie02]

Ooh... thank you! That makes a lot of sense now! Jin does remind me a bit of Takuya. When Jin left Jimusho, I was suddenly wondering "hmm... why didn't Takuya ever leave?" ^^

Also... during Nobuta wo Produce, I heard Yamapi and Kame were Johnny's most favorites that time. So I'm still wondering why Yamapi was suddenly thrown into Iijima's golden trash bin when he decided to leave NEWS XD

[himaori]

Maybe YamaP is friend with Jin?!

I'm not sure about it but Akanishi troop was very famous and infamous, I think you also knew about it. The Akanishi troop had 3 Johnny's boys: Jin, YamaP, and Ryo. But usually Ryo is always the one that has least mention in any articles about this troop, the prominent ones are Jin and YamaP. Somehow Jin influences his attitude (rebel, disobey rules) to his friends, and JE feel it no good. And I read a rumour before that Jin really hates Tegoshi of NEWS, and whenever the article about this issue was brought up, it also included Akanishi troop, so implied that YamaP had something odd with Tegoshi despite being in the same group. Most fans read such articles, they only focus on Jin and neglect the fact that YamaP is also a part of this issue. Besides, Tegoshi is also another Julie's favorite boy. So, you may have gist of why YamaP was treated like now.

[yanie02]

Ahh... I see... if this is true then what every media say about Johnny and Mary is true. Johnny is the president, but Mary decides everything and even Johnny can't disobey what Mary says. And Mary seems to listen to her daughter so much, so if Julie doesn't like one boy, then I guess the dark fate is immediately decided for that boy XD

I heard Johnny really liked Yamapi, but I guess Johnny's opinion doesn't count for Mary.

So after Jin decided to separate himself from KT, there was a period of time when he stayed in the Jimusho, before he finally leave in the end right? And he was managed by Julie in that period of time, no? I'm surprised he wasn't thrown away to Iijima's trash bin immediately.

[lilly0]

That was an interesting read, thanks

[yanie02]

Hmm... i'm not sure I want to bring up the abuse issues. Shuukan Bunshun was sued because they published article regarding the matter and they had to settle the matter in court for years. I don't want my journal to be shut down for writing about it, lol.

Imo, the safest groups are of those under Julie now. Whichever win the game, they are safe, because Nakai is on Iijima's side, and I never see Nakai favour one kouhai over the other. He treats all his kouhai the same.
What I'm worried about is those under Micchi. SMAP has enough reputation so they are maybe safe, but how about the boys who just started their career? Mary and Julie seem doesn't give a damn about the groups under Micchi's care.

[lilly0]

Well, that's understandable of course ^^
(Do you live in Japan?)

I see, I guess, it might be a problem for Yamapi and Sexy Zone... I'm just curious: Who is managing A.B.C-Z and NEWS?

Funny enough both women have a huge group each under their managment and one or two successful younger groups. It's almost like someone wants to spice things up for publicity reasons... Maybe it's just a huge joke and suddenly a third person will appear and take over everything? ^^
Maybe Mary/Julie are feeling stressed because the agency might not care about blood relation and hand the agency over to someone who works the best?

Also as a Kanjani-fan, I know that most of Kanjani's success came from Kanjani themselves, not because they were managed well. (There were a lot of bitter times, like when they didn't get a DVD release, because they sold too well!)

SMAP and Arashi are my two favourite groups... so it feels a bit weird that this whole fraction thing is carried out on their backs :-/

[yanie02]

ABCZ is with Micchi and NEWS is with Julie.

yeah, especially if SMAP/Micchi decide to leave the Jimusho. I don't think they're gonna take the kouhai groups with them, cos it'll create a turmoil. But if they stay, i wonder if Mary/Julie is willing to take care of them with love XD

[anik_chan]

It's very interesting, I've never known about division in Johnny's agancy. I'm very surprising how agency treated the biggest star SMAP. I've noticed something when Yamapi began his solo career and I've heard some rumors about Kimura's trouble with his marriage but I've no idea that is so deep conflict. I hope SMAP and Iijima show their strenght.
Thank you for translation.

[yanie02]

Yes, yamapi is going through a tough time now, I hope he can make it through

[mangchie]

Hello yanie, thank you for this lengthy analysis! I've known some of the rumours but also learnt a whole lot more to the whole thing (even though they may not be real but it's hard to believe that it's not with all these speculations supporting one another) im also another one of ur silent readers but i felt like i had to leave a comment to thank you for this :D

[yanie02]

mangchie, thank you for the smarashi support *cries* *hug*
I don't know what's happening to the world now. Ten years ago, SMAP fans and Arashi fans were the strongest allies. Cos many Smappies loved Arashi and vice versa back then.... T_T

Everytime I write things about smarashi, it always bothers me the thoughts that my fellow dear smappies who hates arashi who might feel sick reading my smarashi posts. But I always have to struggle with the thoughts and cast them away and keeping in mind (or just creating a delusion?) that there are still many smarashi supporters out there who'd gladly read my smarashi posts. So thank you for letting me know you're a smarashi supporter ^v^

I'm sorry, I don't know anything about the Makeruna Baby campaign, but maybe because it was the lowest selling single?

[mangchie]

*hugs* yes it is rare and honestly sometimes it feels quite scary to actually say that I'm a fan of the other group. Though most of the time I don't really care XD Lots of Arashi fans (esp those from 2005 or so) actually really like SMAP too and I think that's largely due to Utaban and Nakai... So now that there's no more Utaban, I guess it kind of fizzled out :(

Don't worry bout it, because I'm sure there's a bunch of smarashi supporters that just aren't too vocal about it! If it makes you feel better, im always reading them and feeling really happy to see their interactions because most of it isn't for camera eyes and really shows that they get along well ^^ and like you, I'm sure all of us are waiting for the day for a smap and arashi collaboration bc I sure am ^^ it'll be epic and nothing less!

[yanie02]

yes, absolutely! Thank you!!

[ao_hiji]

Thank you Yanie!!
Interesting article to be read in the morning.

Thanks to Mary’s cruel words about SMAP, now Makeruna Baby Never Give Up is sold out everywhere.
See, that’s SMAP’s Karei Naru Gyakushu!!
SMAP namennayo~

Also, this morning, I heard rumors that Nakai is in Fuji TV and looks like he’s preparing something to leave Johnnys.
Dunno how accurate this rumors are.

[yanie02]

yeah, bless the Japanese fans, they're so powerful! I hope the Kareinaru Gyakushuu campaign will turn out a success too. We can only pray and support from here, cause apparently overseas sales doesn't count for Oricon chart T_T

Whattt?? What's this? Lately, many gossip media are taking advantage of Mary's interview. I don't want to read them, they're awful to SMAP/Micchi >_<

[ao_hiji]

I pray that it will turns out to be a big success too!!
Many Japanese fans also said it would be good if they just leave Johnnys soon. Because some Japanese fans actually come to hate Arashi because of this things. Some of them clearly said that they hate Arashi.
Geez, that Mary baba..

I am not sure too. There's just some statements/rumors about it. That Nakai is in Fuji TV and preparing to leave Johnnys. Actually it's hard to believe any media now. Some of them looks like they're in Mary and Julie faction so they write bad things about SMAP.

[mangchie]

Ah, so it really is because of the interview that fans are suddenly buying Makeruna Baby?
I've been guessing it was due to that but fans never actually explicitly said anythin bout it.. Hahah..
Thanks for this ^^