Tip o the cheers, wag of the jeers

Oct 28, 2008 18:51

Here's some things that bug me, from the left and to the right.
To the right:
Actually I should say the religious right. I just read Victoria Jacksons delightful piece (here's her website:http://www.victoriajackson.com/ scroll down a bit.) where she says: "I don't want a political label ( Read more... )

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marchenland October 29 2008, 04:54:07 UTC
Democracy? Jimmy Carter's own org won't certify our elections. I can handle losing an election fairly, but if McCain "wins," I will take my democracy-loving ass to a place where elections are free and fair. Politics aren't like your car, and the increasingly complicated methods used by the right to "win" defy anything you're going to find in a manual.

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xiitone October 29 2008, 15:16:10 UTC
Hrm. It sounds like you're saying that if Obama doesn't win the country is broken beyond repair?

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marchenland October 29 2008, 16:00:31 UTC
Nope. It's not about Obama at all; he just happens to be the wildly popular candidate whose votes are already "mysteriously" being flipped in this, the 3rd election to be run primarily by partisan election commissioners using voting machines built by outcome-promising companies and guaranteed by a stacked Supreme Court. It could happen to anyone, although frankly, I don't see some parties as being willing to go there, while other parties clearly will and have. But while I quietly gird my loins and go into battle ever 4 years, determined that THIS YEAR, it will be a free and fair election, they are coming up with ever more interesting ways to steal an election and then blame the victims. And I'm done with that. It's not Democracy, and calling it Democracy won't make it so ( ... )

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amp23 October 29 2008, 13:55:00 UTC
here, here

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with the caveat that we need to have democratic processes where a majority of the public makes actual decisions through truly representative agents in order to have anything that can pretend to be a democracy. open verifiable elections being a key missing element beyond the arguments of the spectrum of debate and the various ways it's limited/influenced. we're even rapidly losing the republican chestnut of the constitutional republic, if that ever really existed either.

those hoping to find better in Canada better have 6 figures worth of liquid assets to pump into the economy immediately or a major corporation in their corner if they expect to be welcomed in any meaningful way. although by overstaying a visa, decades can be passed in some pockets of the country.

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