Drugs are "bad", mmmkay???

[xi_o_teaz]

The more I read heron61's LJ, the more I love his posts. Today I came across a little gem that links to a study refuting the 60's rat studies that are widely used to justify laws against addictive drugs. Some context for those of you unaware from heron61"I assume everyone reading this has heard stories about how tests of various addictive drugs like heroin or

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[erl_queen]

"Drug-induced experiences are too quick and easy and could therefore hardly be identical to those hard-won by years of contemplative discipline."I see this one a lot. The thing is, they're NOT identical, but not in the way people think. The actual experience - that can certainly be just as profound, just as real, just as meaningful. But the thing is that if you don't have the discipline and the arsenal of techniques and practice and relationships with spirits and all of that to back it up, then you can't *deliberately* induce that same experience whenever you want/need, unless you have that entheogen handy. So that's a drawback (however, all techniques have drawbacks, and benefits, so it doesn't mean entheogens aren't a valid approach, just that one should know both sides

[xi_o_teaz]

The thing is, they're NOT identical

No-thing is, not even me from the "me" of 5 minutes ago--it sounds trite, but is a point worth remembering (I'm primarily reminding myself here ;-)

but not in the way people think. The actual experience - that can certainly be just as profound, just as real, just as meaningful. But the thing is that if you don't have the discipline and the arsenal of techniques and practice and relationships with spirits and all of that to back it up, then you can't *deliberately* induce that same experience whenever you want/need, unless you have that entheogen handy.

Yes. This is one of the things he talks about. The Experience is like a seed that won't Grow to Fruition unless the Garden of the Mind of the Aspirant has been properly prepared.

So that's a drawback (however, all techniques have drawbacks, and benefits, so it doesn't mean entheogens aren't a valid approach, just that one should know both sides).Again we are in agreement. No Path is "better" or "worse" than others--they all have their own

[spyro_prime]

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