One thing should not go with the other. Most people do not seem to agree with this viewpoint. I am glad that at least one supreme court is keeping this in mind.
which is it...can only non-christians can be on juries now...or are the christian's freedom of speech being infringed upon...or is the court merely saying that you must not look into your personal moral sources for guidance in determining the future/non-future of another human life?
"Defense attorney Kathleen Lord, arguing before the state Supreme Court last month, said the jurors had gone outside the law. "They went to the Bible to find out God's position on capital punishment," she said.
Prosecutors countered, saying jurors should be allowed to refer to the Bible or other religious texts during deliberations.
Monday's ruling said the Bible and other religious writings are considered "codes of law by many" in Colorado. But noting that it takes a unanimous jury to impose a death sentence here, the court said "at least one juror in this case could have been influenced by these authoritative passages ... when he or she may otherwise have voted for a life sentence."
a.) Colorado is an uber Christian state where religion is everything b.) One swears on the Bible when going on the stand c.) You know how I feel about it anyway d.) Something to think about though
Take a deep breath...deloresdefactoMarch 31 2005, 22:10:00 UTC
Yeah, that's the iffy part. There are conflicting statements about capital punishment. I am not totally sure what I think about it. There's good and bad in all of it. On one hand, the ones who kill in self defense or a jealous rage who need a lifetime of rehabilition and seperation from normal society are killed. Ex: Aileen Wuornos -- was there any real positive outcome in killing her? Granted I'm swayed by seeing Monster but still. When I saw her kill the first guy I said, "Good girl!" I am also swayed by the fact that she is a woman -- I empathize more. However, she eliminated a few perverts off this earth and she got punished for it.
Then the psychos who will kill again and who have no remorse are saved. The system does not work. I'm not saying it should be totally done away with. It makes sense to have fuckers like Ted Bundy sentenced to death. But all in all, it needs to be fixed
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This part here gets me. "Today's ruling further confirms that the judicial branch of our government is nearly bereft of any moral foundation," said Tom Minnery, the group's vice president for government and public policy.
I'm not a christain but I have morals. This makes it sound like that with out religon you are with-out them. But I do think that if the Gov. is going to take the seperation of church and state to mean just that, then it needs to go the whole nine. Get god off of our money and the bible out of the court room. Dont half-ass it. Its a double standard.
By the way what happens if you refuse to swear on that bible anyway?
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Prosecutors countered, saying jurors should be allowed to refer to the Bible or other religious texts during deliberations.
Monday's ruling said the Bible and other religious writings are considered "codes of law by many" in Colorado. But noting that it takes a unanimous jury to impose a death sentence here, the court said "at least one juror in this case could have been influenced by these authoritative passages ... when he or she may otherwise have voted for a life sentence."
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b.) One swears on the Bible when going on the stand
c.) You know how I feel about it anyway
d.) Something to think about though
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A murderer/rapist escaped the slam-dunk death penalty.
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Ex: Aileen Wuornos -- was there any real positive outcome in killing her? Granted I'm swayed by seeing Monster but still. When I saw her kill the first guy I said, "Good girl!" I am also swayed by the fact that she is a woman -- I empathize more. However, she eliminated a few perverts off this earth and she got punished for it.
Then the psychos who will kill again and who have no remorse are saved. The system does not work. I'm not saying it should be totally done away with. It makes sense to have fuckers like Ted Bundy sentenced to death. But all in all, it needs to be fixed ( ... )
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"Today's ruling further confirms that the judicial branch of our government is nearly bereft of any moral foundation," said Tom Minnery, the group's vice president for government and public policy.
I'm not a christain but I have morals. This makes it sound like that with out religon you are with-out them. But I do think that if the Gov. is going to take the seperation of church and state to mean just that, then it needs to go the whole nine. Get god off of our money and the bible out of the court room. Dont half-ass it. Its a double standard.
By the way what happens if you refuse to swear on that bible anyway?
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