9x19/9x20 The Truth

Nov 19, 2008 17:12

Last episode post from me! Don't forget we will be covering IWTB after the DVD comes out. Plus we'll be doing a few things afterwards to keep the community alive and kicking for awhile. You're all wonderful and thanks so much for the participation!


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episode post: season 9

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leucocrystal November 20 2008, 01:53:16 UTC
Someone on Haven once joked that XF copied one of the worst-received series finales in history (i.e. the trial episode of Seinfeld). This is hilariously, depressingly true.

That said, I do enjoy some aspects of it. Mostly, I'm just overjoyed to see Mulder again. There are some great moments mixed in with all the mediocrity, but I think if this episode illustrates one thing, it's this: XF worked best when we didn't have all the answers, when light wasn't shed on everything, and when you didn't try to explain it all out loud. When you do that? It sounds ridiculous, there's no getting around it. They kept things in shadow and just out of sight so long for good reason.

Ah well, at least we finally got a really hot kiss in the DARK.

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truemyth November 21 2008, 04:06:29 UTC
at least we finally got a really hot kiss in the DARK.

I thought you said they shouldn't shine light on things! Make up your mind! ;)

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_folieadeux November 24 2008, 21:07:24 UTC
Someone on Haven once joked that XF copied one of the worst-received series finales in history (i.e. the trial episode of Seinfeld). This is hilariously, depressingly true.

Oh my gah. I didn't even realize that but it's SO TRUE. Gross.

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I have too many thoughts. (Part 1/3) quietreflection November 20 2008, 03:11:10 UTC
I seriously wish I knew how to condense all of this but it's the last episode so I guess you guys can humor me? :)

I honestly do love The Truth. I don't necessarily like everything about the way the series ends (aka, the rest of season nine and maybe eight) but from where the show went, I think this was a good way to end it off.

Plot-wise:
- A few of you have mentioned the "clip show" which is the trial. I don't mind that. I'm pretty fond of looking back on old footage and seeing how far we've come and and what the journey's been like, which includes this. (Although, since we're getting it during season nine I'm not just looking back with nostalgia but with OMFG THAT is why I love this show. I knew there was a reason!) It is also nice to get an explicit explanation of everything that has happened on this twisting, winding show. Not that I learn anything new from it. And not that I feel like I comprehend it all either. (For the most part, I understand each individual piece. I still need time to digest it as a whole picture ( ... )

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erries November 21 2008, 14:53:04 UTC
Why Knowle came for him if they were going to kill him by lethal injection anyway.

This is a very good question!

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My favorite pie is apple. (Part 2/3) quietreflection November 20 2008, 03:11:33 UTC
Other moments ( ... )

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erries November 21 2008, 15:30:05 UTC
Do you guys think the x-files are ever re-instated? Otherwise, what are Doggett and Reyes doing now?

It's so silly of me to assume that any of this has anything to do with continuity, but I'm guessing that theoretically, if the X-Files were still operational and Doggett and Reyes were still working those cases, Agent Whitney in IWTB would've asked *them* for help instead of M&S. Right?

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I like apple too _folieadeux November 24 2008, 21:25:52 UTC
I too wonder about what happened to Doggett and Reyes. They were the new "golden children" of Season 9 and they were discarded like rubbish in the end. As much as I never loved them, it is really unfair. I wonder if maybe they did work on a reinstated XF for a bit (not too long as per IWTB) but it's probably likelier that they both went off and did other things.

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Truth. (Part 3/3) quietreflection November 20 2008, 03:12:09 UTC
Line-wise:
- My absolute favorite is probably when Mulder has his head buried in Scully's shoulder and she asks him what he was doing in New Mexico and he says exasperatedly, "Looking for the truth." Of course he was; he's Mulder. That line, the way he says it, and Scully's laugh in response are all perfection.
- I'm pretty fond of the plays on words of both "To beg mercy with the man upstairs" and "To see a man about the truth." (Heh, it is a coincidence that they're both in response to the question, "Where are you going?")
- I think all of season nine was worth it just for that prosecutor saying "love child" in relation to Mulder and Scully. Well, almost.
- I didn't realize so many people didn't like Reyes, haha. I like both her and Doggett a fair amount, even if I don't care for the episodes they are in. And yeah, I think that "What is the point of all of this? To destroy a man who seeks the truth or to destroy the truth so no man can seek it? Either way, you lose" is one of the more brilliant things I've heard ever ( ... )

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Re: Truth. (Part 3/3) book232 November 20 2008, 07:41:42 UTC
when Mulder has his head buried in Scully's shoulder and she asks him what he was doing in New Mexico and he says exasperatedly, "Looking for the truth."
I knoooow, I love that so much. The way Scully laughs, as in "Oh Mulder, you haven't changed after all, and I'm so glad about that". (Also, I love how touchy they are throughout the episode. Squeee!)

I liked Reyes and Doggett, too, and I find it kind of sad how they just drive away, without really saying good-bye to Mulder and Scully. Whatever they decided to do afterwards, I hope they're okay. (And yes, I know. They're fictional characters. Whatever. ;P)

I love the way Scully says, "It's you and me."
"That's what I'm fighting for, you and me!" Yeah, I kinda love them, too.

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erries November 21 2008, 15:36:55 UTC
What I just saw for the first time and killed me with lulz is the deleted scene at the end. I guess I just seriously was not expecting to see President Bush.

Is this an actual deleted scene on the DVD? I always thought it was just written into the script but never filmed. Guess I should check out that bonus disc, huh?

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hologrammatical November 20 2008, 03:13:35 UTC
Aww, in spite of..well..in spite of many things, I really do enjoy this ep. Mostly for the MSR of it all (because if I think too hard about the plot...argh...but the mulder/scully at least, rings true) ^^ The whole ending mulder/scully discussion..I just...flail incoherently...And, I LOVE that as that last scene with them on the bed fades out, you hear the first 6 notes of the x-files theme, only all quiet and slow. Perfect coda to the series ;)

Minor things:
-for some reason, it really bugs me that the last time Mulder speaks to the Lone Gumnen, he's taking a piss on the side of the road. ^^;;;; just...really?
-I completely agree with Monica's tribunal speech being kickass!
-and...wow, thinking back on it all, it really is amazing how far this show went over nine years! so many stories! and mulder and scully grew so much...and...it's just one of those shows that makes me think..."oh man, now this, this is television, people!"
<3 <3 <3

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