X-Men nerdiness: Thieves Guild= Cajuns, Assassins Guild = Creoles?

Jan 11, 2011 02:02

Thanks to lithiumlaughter's mad enabling skills, I've been researching the Creole & Cajun culture in order to create a Thieves Guild/Assassins Guild/Unified Guild tattooing language. By "researching," I mean googling the living heck out of anything to do with a) Roman Catholicism, b) Roman Catholic art & symbolism, c) New Orleans and d) Creole vs Cajun culture. ( Read more... )

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mwffj January 11 2011, 20:24:40 UTC
Perhaps the reason for the differences in specialization is, under this theory, that since the Thieves were mostly Cajun, and Cajuns are found in rural areas, perhaps they controlled trade routes in the northern parts of the state way back when?

This is a good, brief primer on the various criminological approaches to theories on organized crime. I'm not too familiar with Bell, Ianni's or the Alien Conspiracy Theory, but I could talk about Merton and Sutherland until the cows come home.

This looks really, really interesting and I'd love to see you develop this further.

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xenokattz January 11 2011, 20:38:24 UTC
Perhaps the reason for the differences in specialization is, under this theory, that since the Thieves were mostly Cajun, and Cajuns are found in rural areas, perhaps they controlled trade routes in the northern parts of the state way back when?
-- Perhaps? I don't want to make it seem like culture/ethnicity is the major reason for the two gangs. I kind of think the two groups formed gangs with the people they knew who happened to be doing many of the same things they were. In which case, yes, Cajuns living in rural trade routes --> smuggling --> organized thieving to fill a criminal niche so to speak. Whereas the Creoles who can & did hold political office, went into the military, had the money and/or education to learn a vast array of skills (poisons, marital arts, gadgets) would be socially in a "better" place to learn to be an assassin.

I'm not too familiar with Bell, Ianni's or the Alien Conspiracy Theory, but I could talk about Merton and Sutherland until the cows come home. -- Oh please do! I don't have much theory to back ( ... )

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nefersitra January 11 2011, 22:37:58 UTC
If you're looking for canon info on the Guilds (especially the Thieves) summaries of most of the issues in the 3rd Gambit series are here:
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showfaq.asp?fldAuto=11

Issues 12 to 14 deal with the LeBeaus relocating from Paris to New Orleans in 1891

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xenokattz January 11 2011, 22:38:54 UTC
Thank you very much!

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scribble_myname January 12 2011, 18:24:51 UTC
(where were you when I was doing THIS: http://airo25.livejournal.com/tag/i%20never%20trusted%20canon [top three entries anyway]?)

I know the patrons are a huge factor in the formalization and the violence in canon. Candra wanted them to work for her and didn't want them rising against her, so set them against each other. (If I had a good link for that, I'd give it to you, but suffice to say, it's on uncannyxmen.net somewhere.)

And I'd also point out Belladonna's hairstyle with cornrows was a good decision for fighting purposes. A long braid isn't so good per swan_tower.

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xenokattz January 12 2011, 18:45:03 UTC
OH CAJUN ENGLISH/FRENCH/WHATEVER. *facepalm* I just don't phoenetically spell out the accent any more, just rely on local phrases like "pass a slap" or adding "me" in front of a sentence for emphasis. I think in the past 5 years alone, the Cajun spelling for "cher" has gone from "cher" to "sher" to "sha" and I. Give. Up. Much easier to read, too. Also, as someone who grew up speaking/hearing 2 languages and having many friends who're at least bilingual, you don't tend to mix the two languages anyway unless you're talking to someone who speaks the same two languages with the same dialect/patois/accent ( ... )

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scribble_myname January 12 2011, 19:29:06 UTC
"OH CANON!"

Yes, ma'am. There is a reason my tag for research is "I never trusted canon." Mind, my favorite conundrum: 15-yr-old Gambit shepherds Etienne through his Tilling and 17-yr-old Gambit has his own. Does someone want to tell me how that works?

(for the sake of my own movieverse story arc, Gambit had his own Tilling at 15 [which doesn't work with all the story details but it was easier to move than the other])

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