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wytchcroft

Roadside Picnic, Stalker and Zone - pt 3 of 3

Mar 15, 2009 21:59

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jillain March 15 2009, 22:32:00 UTC

So deep!

wytchcroft March 15 2009, 22:37:32 UTC

ha ha ha!:))

wytchcroft March 16 2009, 06:20:29 UTC

i forgot to say - and thanks!:))

coincidetion? alek_morse March 15 2009, 23:47:39 UTC

///Monkey is quite hairy, has no white to her eyes...///

It reminds me the natives in Edgar Poe's "The Adventures of Arthur Gordon Pim"... they avoided all white, and them eyes also had not white. True, I think it's just coincidetion.

Re: coincidetion? wytchcroft March 15 2009, 23:52:37 UTC

maybe - i gather they were fond of literary allusions, i'm sure i only spotted some of them... there are two james bond jokes. In his flat, Schuhart 'pads around barefooted' and the text is a joke on Thunderball and 007. Same as his name 'Red' Schuhart is a double pun, one of which is on 'Red Grant' evil soviet villain (boo hiss) of 007 book/film From Russia With Love, set of course, in Turkey and featuring the very gypsys you were speaking of.

Re: coincidetion? alex_kraine March 16 2009, 07:38:12 UTC

Although the Brothers spoke English, "Arthur Pim" was something not easily available in Soviet Union. Something known only to critics. AFAIK, only recently have they published that novelette by Poe in the collection of sc-fi stories together with the "Colder War" by Stross that studies deeply into Lovecraftian Kthulhu mythos. And Lovecraft, as we know builds on that Poe's novelette in narration of Antarctic horrors in his "At the Mountains of Madness".
So, I think it's a coincidence too. ^)

Re: coincidetion? wytchcroft March 16 2009, 08:08:01 UTC

interesting to speculate though:)

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Carl Gustav Jung's and U.F.O. alek_morse March 15 2009, 23:56:26 UTC

///Gradually the pilot discovers he has messianic powers and can transform people into animals, teach them to fly and release their inhibitions, their dreams become real.///

I don't know why, but I have remembered Carl Gustav Jung's essay/book about U.F.O. phenomenen as a projection of our (mankind) dreams to heaven that lost Gods.

Re: Carl Gustav Jung's and U.F.O. wytchcroft March 16 2009, 00:01:19 UTC

i think that is quite apt:)) i might have that book something too, buried under wilhelm reichh in a box somewhere!

but actually - just as the final wish in Roadside can be read as sweet but interpreted as dire, terrible thing - so this is true of the coming of the pilot in Ballard's book. And for similar reasons - i should have pointed that out more in the text.

Re: Carl Gustav Jung's and U.F.O. wytchcroft March 16 2009, 00:05:55 UTC

BTW, The Kubler Book 'Shape of Time' - is very interesting and worth reading.

Alexander Kaydanovsky - face and image alek_morse March 16 2009, 00:07:34 UTC

///...in the Stalker a figure very close to Block in Bergman’s Seventh Seal. ///

As for Alexander Kaydanovsky, who played Red/Stalker in the movie... Do you want to see whom he could be Sherlock Holmes, if Vasily Livanov is not approved by LenFilm studio? ;)))

here, welcome

http://pics.livejournal.com/alek_morse/pic/0009kryt/g195

:)

Re: Alexander Kaydanovsky - face and image wytchcroft March 16 2009, 00:24:52 UTC

well - interesting but... no. ha ha! Still it is Stapleton in Len-film Holmes who could rival maybe... or Johnathan Small with the correct hairpiece, maybe... it is hard - none would have Livanov's voicee and warmth.

Re: Alexander Kaydanovsky as Stepleton alek_morse March 16 2009, 00:38:29 UTC

///well - interesting but... no. ha ha! Still it is Stapleton in Len-film Holmes who could rival maybe... ///

Nic, you deinitely can read my thoughts ;)))

here is Alexander Kaydanovsky as Stepleton in first Soviet TV version of The Hound (1972):

http://pics.livejournal.com/alek_morse/pic/000ds6zk/g195
:)

Re: Alexander Kaydanovsky as Stepleton wytchcroft March 16 2009, 00:53:36 UTC

ah but this is interesting to compare with the recent Granger Hound posting on ru_sherlockiana.

thanks for that:)

and now, this mindreader must try for some sleep. Regards, to you:)

wytch

stoshagownozad March 16 2009, 05:46:08 UTC

oh thanks ( ... )

The City Beyond the River wytchcroft March 16 2009, 06:19:40 UTC

This sounds amazing and i want to watch it now!

a little like Dark City perhaps.

But yes, sooner or later - we all meet in the zone.:)

Thank you so much for reading and commenting so nicely:)))

The doomed City - Град обреченный alek_morse March 16 2009, 15:41:44 UTC

I'd slightly correct the title as "City The Doomed"
- so, this sounds closer to Russian original name and transfers some epic...

I like this book :)

Re: The doomed City - Град обреченный wytchcroft March 16 2009, 15:59:03 UTC

i have found it on-line to read:)))

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