That Writing Thing.

Mar 05, 2012 13:46

What's that word we all want to strike down from our stories?

Well, aside from adverbs. Though, personally, I have nothing against them. *hides*

SAID.

"It's not so bad," he said ( Read more... )

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ares132006 March 5 2012, 23:31:57 UTC
Yes, said Fred. :)

Said is an important part of dialogue and it does seem - when you're writing - that you overuse it. However, 'said' in dialogue is one of those words that seem to 'disappear' when reading dialogue.

Next time you pick up a book, look at the number of times said is used. You'll be surprised.

That being said (*g*) I've had this discussion before with other authors.
Using other words instead of said is great for creating emotion behind the words, e.g. "Get off!" he snarled.

There is nothing wrong with the dialogue you used as an example, Leni. It works. Don't hide. It's nothing to be ashamed of.

Ares

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leni_ba March 6 2012, 00:07:25 UTC
No, the example is not wrong. Just flat and repetitive. *shrug* 'Said' is an useful word, especially because, as you mentioned, it will blend in with the rest of the text when it's not overused.

But 'say' doesn't add much to the context, and that's okay because most of the times it's the dialogue itself what matters rather than the dialogue tag.

But sometimes, a little tweak in the tag makes the difference. For example:

"It's too dark," he said.

vs.

"It's too dark," he complained.

vs.

"It's too dark," he argued.

vs.

"It's too dark," he cautioned.

All three of them are right, but the last three dialogue tag alone sets up a different picture of the intent behind the words without needing more words.

Now, if the setting was already given, I prefer to go with 'say', as in,

"I need to be out there. Don't you understand?"

He really didn't believe leaving the house alone at midnight was a good idea. "It's too dark," he said.

But sometimes you want more of a staccato feeling to the scene.

"I need to be out there. Don't you ( ... )

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scribesds March 6 2012, 00:14:33 UTC
A really interesting post, Leni. There were some very interesting alternatives in there, though a couple of them were a bit odd. Clucked, imitated and sneezed (sneezed? Seriously?) for example, are rather strange…

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leni_ba March 6 2012, 00:18:51 UTC
'Clucked' I've seen used when the person speaking is an older, disapproving lady. Or just disapproving, lol.

I've heard 'mimicked' rather than 'imitated'. But 'sneezed'? lol. I'm hard-pressed to think of that one as a dialogue tag.

Though every list I've seen so far had words like that, which I still have no idea how or why they got there.

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zuriel March 6 2012, 02:51:50 UTC
I write a lot of dialogue and this is always a problem of how not to use the word "said" too many times. Especially in my longer stories (which are still on my computer in progress, stuck in limbo).

And I've also noticed as Ares mentioned that many authors/books I've read seem to use it freely and without guilt.

One of the alternatives I like that isn't supposed to be a word (at least according to my MS Word program) is "smirked." You can smirk at someone but I guess you're not allowed to say "Why, what could you possibly mean?" he smirked. Or something like that. I use it anyway.

I don't particularly dislike overusing the word "said" as I tend to ignore it as I read anyway...it's just rather boring.

The same can be said for the overuse of "replied" - another one I try to avoid if possible.

And I believe we should strike "sneezed" from the list. It seems particularly difficult to say something and sneeze at the same time, although it's not impossible. :)

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leni_ba March 6 2012, 03:07:59 UTC
My drafts usually have 'said' everywhere. On the second revision, I'll strike almost all of them, along with other overused dialogue tags. If the dialogue is still missing something, I'll go through that list and see if anything fits.

Sometimes I'll put the 'said' back in, too. Lol.

I don't particularly dislike overusing the word "said" as I tend to ignore it as I read anyway...it's just rather boring.

It is rather boring.

I don't mind the word itself, but have you never run across a dialogue where it's used in four consecutive lines? I often wonder where the editor was.

Also, it's kind of sad to use a word because we know it'll be ignored. Why use it at all?

A pet peeve of mine is when someone uses 'asked' or 'questioned' directly after a question. As in, "What's your name?" she asked. Same when someone says 'exclaimed' right after an exclamation sign "It happens!" they exclaimed.I prefer to use those three in indirect quotes ( ... )

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ashes1753 March 6 2012, 08:19:39 UTC
interesting.

I tend to use said quiet a bit, but i've learnt to use it when another more descriptive dialogue might seem repetive.

It's also good to use it to establish who is speaking.

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leni_ba March 6 2012, 09:49:06 UTC
It's also good to use it to establish who is speaking.

*nodnod* Especially when you've got more than two people in the conversation.

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ashes1753 March 6 2012, 10:43:05 UTC
Yes like i normally use 'said' just...quickly...like adding an extra person in on the conversation.

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