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ferdette October 16 2006, 01:02:18 UTC
Smith: Not so much with the pretentious (that's what our lovely sister Wellesley is for - no offense, though, Wellesley women). But pre-conceived...kind of. Smithies tend to be so concerned with being PC that they don't want to step outside of the box that they think is the only way to offend the least number of people. And it might be, but it's not getting them anywhere, because it's not furthering the discourse.
That's not to say, either, that there aren't pretentious Smithies. There are. But there are plenty who are not.

I guess the bottom line is: Smith has lots of niches. From what I read in your journal, there's a well-carved-out (but not too firmly carved, of course) niche for you. There are definitely Smithies (namely, from who I know, women's studies and philosophy majors) who actually challenge pre-conceived notions and who I think you'd fit in well with. i.e. If you're aiming to start a revolution, there are more than a few Smithies who'd be very much on board with that.

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krystynayt October 16 2006, 01:29:16 UTC
(that's what our lovely sister Wellesley is for - no offense, though, Wellesley women).

An example of the desire to not offend. ;)

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 15:18:23 UTC
I could have sworn I replied to this last night, oh well, I basically said that I really want to go to Smith.

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krystynayt October 16 2006, 01:27:10 UTC
...it's college. People have a tendency not to be real in college. :) Every school with have interesting, down-to-earth people... and every school will have its share of pretentious blow-hards whom you really just want to slap over and over and over until they get some sense into their fizzy little skulls ( ... )

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bertie_girl October 16 2006, 14:29:23 UTC
Wellesley women are humans who pretend that they're inhuman (but are VERY human and in many cases, very normal, imo). We don't seem to emulate pretention as much as we attempt perfection, which looks a lot like the same thing, except we struggle more obviously. It's a fine line and there are plenty of people who walk outside of it but if you're looking for an utter lack of pretention and image-upholding, Wellesley is not the place. There's fakery on every side: the emphatic hippies, the ambitious i-bankers, the average woman who works hard to show that she's above average somehow. But I don't think this is different from most name-brand colleges.

This is spot-on, and I agree that it's essentially true of every college on your list, no matter how loudly the students might deny it. College is usually the first time that most students live on their own, choose all of their own coursework, make major decisions, and generally decide who they are. It's not exactly a relaxing experience, and pretense (intentional or otherwise) is the ( ... )

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krystynayt October 16 2006, 19:37:17 UTC
On the whole, the campus doesn't participate in any school rivalries

We get a little snarky towards Harvard sometimes... but who doesn't? :)

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bertie_girl October 16 2006, 21:35:17 UTC
*laughs* I don't count that. In the sense of, "Go, Blue!!!! Crush [insert school name]!!!" ... yeah, it just doesn't happen.

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plungerdna October 16 2006, 02:02:46 UTC
don't have time to read your journal right now, but have you considered Barnard?

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 02:30:45 UTC
I would but i dont think manhatten would be the place for me and as far as I can tell there isn't an art program, although I could be wrong...

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 20:51:43 UTC
manhattan*, that was annoying me.

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abstractstatic October 17 2006, 04:23:04 UTC
Columbia has an arts program. Barnard students can take classes at Columbia.

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thatpicturetakr October 16 2006, 02:18:52 UTC
Or Bryn Mawr?

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 03:48:53 UTC
I'm pretty sure the academic load would kill me.

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thatpicturetakr October 16 2006, 04:13:38 UTC
Wellesley, Smith, and Mount Holyoke have similar academic loads.

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 04:17:55 UTC
Yeah, but from what I hear Bryn Mawr is insane.

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phi_marie October 16 2006, 03:41:22 UTC
nothing to tell you, except i'm applying to mount holyoke too!

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burnbabyburn October 16 2006, 03:49:13 UTC
nice!

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