Sad Puppies, Rabid Puppies, and taking fandom back

Apr 15, 2015 10:28

"Fandom requires you to associate with the kind of people you'd normally cross the street to avoid" - yours truly, after Garrison Keillor ( Read more... )

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selenite April 15 2015, 17:28:55 UTC
I've been attending cons about as long as you have. I went to one Worldcon--LoneStarCon two years ago. Which drew me into internet discussions of "Why is Worldcon dying and how can we help it?" My suggestion was to hand the Worldcon mantle to a megacon such as Dragoncon or SDCC. The old guard hated the idea. We're seeing why now.

I suspect the Hugo kerfuffle might be the saving of Worldcon. With enough extra funds they can sponsor stuff to bring in new people.

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wombat_socho April 16 2015, 04:13:13 UTC
Who knows? We may ultimately have a Sad Puppies bid to put a Worldcon in Salt Lake City and invite Larry Correia as GoH. >:)

I've been to two Worldcons (Discon II was my first con period, and I went to Constellation in 1983) and am mulling over MidAmericon II, which is on the 40th anniversary of the first MidAmericon - I had a membership, and a promised introduction to GoH Robert Heinlein, but my parents weren't so keen on letting their teenage son bus it cross-country to hang out with several thousand SF fans. Looking back, they were probably right to be wary. In the middle, I've been to a fair number of literary SF, geek culture, and anime conventions, and I have to say I prefer the anime conventions. Less obnoxious politics on the part of the staff and membership, for one thing.

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selenite April 16 2015, 06:35:28 UTC
I worked an anime con (GMing). My main reaction was "does your mother know you're dressed like that?" That's NOT the reaction I was having at Worldcon.

I could see Salt Lake Comic Con taking Worldcon under its wing. A pure Puppies bid . . . I think it would make the past two weeks' drama pale.

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wombat_socho April 17 2015, 03:39:05 UTC
Don't lie - you'd enjoy watching all the heads explode if Salt Lake City won the bid. :)

Anime conventions...they're a not always successful blend of American geek culture with Japanese culture, with a lot of awkwardness, as you've observed. If there's still costuming at Worldcon, I suspect it's much more G-rated.

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meep April 19 2015, 15:06:47 UTC
I can't really go to cons now, but thanks for letting me know that voting members get e-copies of most of the workers.

That's worth it for me.

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wombat_socho April 19 2015, 15:11:29 UTC
It varies from year to year depending on the whims of the publishers, and sometimes the authors. Michael Flynn made his nominated short story "In The Stone House" available online ,and I am remiss in not posting a link for it. One of the things on the to-do list for today.

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