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Mar 21, 2011 01:08

[T'Pol is angry. She's hiding it pretty well, but anyone close to her can recognize the hard lines in her face. She's pretty much had it with the way things are structured, and that on top of pretty much feeling Trip dying is enough for a brisk little Vulcan rant.]The hierarchy on this ship is extremely simple: there are wardens, and there are ( Read more... )

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timesbureaucrat March 21 2011, 06:54:49 UTC
I thoroughly agree. [This bureaucratic spy wants more hierarchy like burning.]

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 14:54:46 UTC
[Hierarchy is a good way to stop murders. :|] Thank you.

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[Video] LATER! When he's back in his room. And... not high. most_feared March 21 2011, 07:07:00 UTC
I agree for the need of a chain of command. I won't give too much detail pertaining to my job, but this sort of thing happens about five times a year. Only once or twice has it taken two weeks to resolve. It's a minimum of a few days of aroused suspicion, an individual check, and conflict resolution ( ... )

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[Video] But high K, you were so fun. :c with_discipline March 21 2011, 14:58:03 UTC
Top positions do not come without a measure of risk; nor does volunteering our time on this ship. The wardens here put themselves in danger regularly. We have the choice to stay; the majority of us do. There is no reason not to make every effort to make this ship safer for everyone.

Perhaps if the system changes, so too will the people who remain. [Meaning if someone's gonna bitch and whine about not getting captaincy, maybe they shouldn't be here. >|]

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[Video] Shhh he's pretending that didn't happen most_feared March 21 2011, 16:28:23 UTC
They do, and I agree it should be safer. One-hundred percent about that. Maybe with Snape's idea there might be someone that people might get behind when working with a lot, even if not one of 'em.

[Private]

He's gonna be okay, y'know? Whether or not you say this has anything to do with him. He's gonna be alright.

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[Video] CAN'T ERASE IT. with_discipline March 21 2011, 22:10:49 UTC
If a committee is necessary to appease everyone, I would find that acceptable; but it is clear that the current situation does not work.

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[KAY. Stop figuring her out. It's immensely unsettling. And she has no idea how to reply to that. She's doing that stiff I-have-no-emotions thing of hers.] I know.

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breakmychest March 21 2011, 07:33:09 UTC
Brilliant. Put a big target on a bunch of people's backs next time someone starts wanting to do something like this.

And also a bunch of people for those of us who don't take orders to ignore.

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 14:59:04 UTC
You have never operated under a military setting. [It's a question. She's assuming not, but she doesn't actually know him.]

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breakmychest March 21 2011, 16:40:28 UTC
Well, I've eaten some Nazis, and some secret army base wankers put a chip in my head. So, no. Never have, never want to.

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 22:28:41 UTC
Then it would seem you don't have the experience to determine how it would function. A position of command does not come without its risks, but the gains tend to outweigh the potential losses.

We would not operate as a typical starship; that was never a possibility. You wouldn't be given regular orders 'to ignore.' You would have a group of people to fall back on in the event of an emergency.

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majorum_pride March 21 2011, 09:51:35 UTC
Would there be a similar hierarchy between inmates?

If my theory concerning the ship is correct, and the ship itself is the sentient being and the Admiral is its representation, then perhaps the ship has chosen all of you to be its captain.

I do miss my own ship, though even with a command structure, even with a collective force, there's still weakness. I was once recruited to be this weakness, so I know it all too well.

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 15:01:53 UTC
Do you believe there should be? Wardens should have the responsibility of looking after everyone's safety; inmates are here to be redeemed. A ship cannot have sixty captains; as we've seen, there is no structure.

[Paaauuse] I am not claiming that hierarchy and structure is perfect. It has its flaws. But operating in mass chaos has done us no favors.

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majorum_pride March 21 2011, 16:22:07 UTC
A ship can't have sixty captains, nor can it have it's functioning crew serving as the primary labour.

I understand your viewpoint. I was once a tactical officer and I actually quite liked my position despite what happened [while preparing them for the fall of the commonwealth], but admittedly a chain of command is difficult when there's no one tangible to issue the position, and a mass of people equally qualified or those unwilling to obey orders at all.

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 22:24:37 UTC
It would not be an easy task, but it continues to seem more and more necessary.

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rass_bestie March 21 2011, 12:00:01 UTC
Put Spike at its head. [What? People who don't want the job = people who won't get power mad. This is not trolling Spike, not. At. All.]

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 15:02:13 UTC
That would be counterproductive.

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rass_bestie March 21 2011, 16:03:13 UTC
Hardly, if he has concerns regarding abuse of the idea, then putting him in a position to ensure this abuse does not occur will allow him to feel secure. The very fact of his reluctance would speak well to this.

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with_discipline March 21 2011, 22:19:00 UTC
His sense of security is not a prime concern.

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